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Re: [TenTec] Triton IV 544 Digital

To: n4py3@earthlink.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Triton IV 544 Digital
From: Winston <jones_winston@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 07:01:51 -0500
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I removed antenna, and sure enough, heard the pulsing signal at 14.0004, zero 
beat at 14.0000.
The fact it’s only heard without antenna, on a frequency I never use, makes it 
even more a non-issue.
73, Winston K4CWQ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> You have to remove the antenna to hear the pulse at 14.0
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 127 River Moss Way
> Hertford, NC 27944
> www.n4py.com
> 
>> On 2/26/2021 7:55 PM, Winston wrote:
>> After reading these posts, checked my 544. No such pulses anywhere. If they 
>> only appeared at 14.0, I wouldn’t care. I never operate on band edges.
>> -de K4CWQ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 7:03 PM, Bob McGraw<rmcgraw@blomand.net>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is not at all unusual for electrolytic capacitors to decrease in value 
>>> as they age.  Thus an original 10mfd, after a few, years may effectively be 
>>> a 1mfd capacitor.  Although I don't care for the "shotgun" approach, this 
>>> usually saves time and money.
>>> 
>>> Keeps life simple and less frustrating.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/26/2021 10:33 AM, Mike Bryce wrote:
>>>> I’ve never done a shotgun approach when it comes to replacing electrolytic 
>>>> capacitors, but in the case of this particular display unit, that was 
>>>> alway the first thing I did.
>>>> 
>>>> Then, and it’s been  years ago, some smaller electrolytic caps (1mf) and 
>>>> .001 disc took care of it. Nothing I did eliminated it 100%
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mike Bryce
>>>> prosolar@sssnet.com
>>>> 
>>>> "The eye is always caught by the light, but shadows have more to say"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Paul Christensen<w9ac@arrl.net>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting.  If the 544 schematic is correct, the Display Board has no 
>>>>> common +Vcc.  +Vcc is supplied individually to each 7-segment LED module 
>>>>> via Q14-Q19 (PNP) on the Logic Board.  +Vcc on the Logic board is RF 
>>>>> bypassed  with a 0.047uF cap at C6.   +Vcc on the Logic Board is also 
>>>>> connected to IC-1 with ample decoupling, consisting of a 22 ohm resistor 
>>>>> and a 0.1 uF cap at C7.  The 22 ohm resistor is mainly there to regulate 
>>>>> current into a Zener diode that feeds +Vcc to IC-1 but it also functions 
>>>>> to decouple.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To me it looks like Ten Tec adequately decoupled one part of the Logic 
>>>>> Board, but not the other going into the display board.   The only problem 
>>>>> with duplicating R/C de-coupling on the +Vcc bus feeding Q14-Q19 is that 
>>>>> any series resistance will make the display slightly dimmer -- and the 
>>>>> green LED segments are already way too dim due to green-wavelength 
>>>>> filtering through the smoked Plexiglass lens.  So, that leaves adding an 
>>>>> additional RF bypass across C6 (0.047 uF). Possibly something like a 4.7 
>>>>> uF 'lytic cap in parallel with a 0.22 uF film bypass will do the trick.
>>>>> 
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