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Re: Topband: QSLing

To: "'Thomas Hoeppe'" <thomas.hoeppe@asamnet.de>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: QSLing
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Reply-to: lists@subich.com
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:47:53 -0400
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> I know a German manager, who is collecting the letters with 
> unsufficient postage (2 dollars mostly), prepares the letters 
> and takes them to a trip to the Czech Republik. It takes a bit 
> more time, but the everyone gets his card...even without postage 
> covered! A perfect service, I would say...

Perhaps it makes sense to prepare all of the W/VE/XE cards, 
bundle them and ship them to someone in the US who can put 
US postage ($0.44 US, $0.75 VE, $0.79 XE) and mail them.  

It might take a little longer to accumulate enough to justify 
the cost of a small package but it would avoid paying Bundespost 
or other postal service their obscene rates. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: topband-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Hoeppe
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: QSLing
> 
> 
> Unbelievable, but true: In Germany we need 1,70 Euros for a 
> oversea letter. 
> So if you add 3 dollars to a QSL request to Germany, the 30 
> cents left will 
> just cover the costs for the QSL, not more! There is no 
> "donation" left! 
> Nobody gets rich, hi.
> I know a German manager, who is collecting the letters with 
> unsufficient 
> postage (2 dollars mostly), prepares the letters and takes 
> them to a trip to 
> the Czech Republik. It takes a bit more time, but the 
> everyone gets his 
> card...even without postage covered! A perfect service, I would say...
> 
> So I am happy about every manager, who just wants the costs 
> covered! Otherwise I ask myself why there are so much 
> managers without using 
> buro-systems! When I made my license I learned: "A manager is 
> a HAM in a 
> land with QSL service, making the QSL traffic for somebody in 
> a land without 
> QSL service."
> That seems not be true nowadays...in too much cases you don't 
> have the 
> decision if you send direct or via buro!
> 
> 73s from Bavaria!
> 
> Tom, DJ5RE/DL0AO
> www.hoeppe.name
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "F8BPN" <f8bpn@wanadoo.fr>
> To: "TopBand-list" <Topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:51 AM
> Subject: Topband: QSLing
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> >>>at 3 bucks hes not getting rich on our dollars
> >>>with cards and return postage. In many Eu countries its 
> over 2 bucks 
> >>>for return postage.
> >
> > Sure not! 1 $ = 0.6756 Euro (Today change)
> > It coast in France 0.85 Euro to send a 20g letter every 
> where outside 
> > the European union countries, means 1.258 $ If you add the QSL 
> > printing with 2 $ you just cover the coast. With 1$ you don't even 
> > cover the coast for European union as the postage is
> > 0.70 Euro.
> > I know in others EU countries the postage is even more 
> expensive than in
> > France.
> >
> >> I'm with K8FC -- I won't pay ANYONE for a QSL, and I won't 
> QSL direct 
> >> with green stamps, no matter how badly I want the card. If 
> a station 
> >> won't use either the Bureau or LOTW, I won't bother trying to work 
> >> him. I'm retired, and I want to spend my limited free cash 
> on things 
> >> that matter, like a better antenna, the research that I 
> continue to 
> >> publish, Lester Young records, or a six pack of decent beer.
> >
> > I am not my self QSLing direct very often, I use the REF Buro, it 
> > works
> > very
> > well and doesn't coast me any extra money. Just need to be 
> member of the
> > national society, just as it is in the Netherland and in many EU 
> > countries.
> > But, I do sometimes, when I work a new one on Top Band for 
> exemple, or an
> > all time new one, as it won't happen too many time every 
> year, I can do 
> > it,
> > and I am pleased to get
> > my card in hand quick. Because I am also pleased to get a 
> real card for 
> > some
> > contacts. Thanks again Merv KH7C for your QSL received this 
> week for our 
> > 160
> > m QSO.
> > I do also for some rare DX expeditions either on the online 
> request, or by
> > post to participate to the coast of the expedition, sending 
> a bit more 
> > than
> > the necessary for the return postage.
> >
> > I agree that this QSL business can be very expensive at 
> last, but as 
> > long
> > as
> > there is the possibility to choose his way to confirm a 
> contact by the QSL
> > buro or/and LOTW, I don't find anything wrong by the QSLing 
> direct, that's
> > your choice.
> > When you send a QSL request direct, you must make sure that 
> there is 
> > enough
> > for the return postage, or pay the price requested.
> > Just turn upset on these expeditions or guys who are "QSL 
> only direct" 
> > THIS
> > is not fair, and THIS is some kind of business which is NOT 
> acceptable!
> > My point of vue is that this should not be accepted, and 
> these expeditions
> > not valid not DXCC or any kind of others awards.
> >
> >
> > See you on the band!
> >
> > 73/88 de F8BPN, Mau, Also FO8RZ (Direct, buro or LOTW), 
> F6KLO, TM5MEM 
> > and TM2E (2002)  (Direct or Buro) manager f8bpn@wanadoo.fr
> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ph-martin/f8bpn
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with respect. - 
> > TF4M
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with 
> respect. - TF4M

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160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with respect. - TF4M

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