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Topband: what form of propagation?

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Subject: Topband: what form of propagation?
From: "k9la@frontier.com" <k9la@frontier.com>
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:03:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Jim (K9YC),
 
You asked : So I'm wondering what form of propagation this is at this time of 
day? Could it be ordinary ground wave?
 
Several years ago I wondered about that, too, since I can easily work the East 
Coast from Ft Wayne (IN) at noon on 160m on CW with 1000W to my 
inverted-L. Thus my May/June 2006 NCJ Propagation column analyzed this using 
1000 W.
 
In a nutshell, if we assume CW with 1500 Watts to quarter-wave verticals over 
average ground and a quiet rural noise environment (about -103 dBm in 500 
Hz), our model of the loss in the D region around noon on a winter day at solar 
minimum allows QSOs out to 1500 km (938 miles) or so before the signal is at 
the noise level. I also believe our model of D region absorption is a bit 
pessimistic for the aforementioned conditions (VY2ZM's monitoring of the GB3SSS 
beacon in December 2006 is the main driver behind this belief - which was 
discussed in my December 2007 Propagation column in WorldRadio).
 
So it's likely that these QSOs (and SWL reports) are a single hop via the E 
region. I just don't see ground wave coming into play here - way too far for 
ground wave based on GRWAVE.
 
Carl K9LA
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