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Re: Topband: DX window

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Subject: Re: Topband: DX window
From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com>
Reply-to: wrcromwell@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:07:16 -0500
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Hi Darrell,

I have started wading into computer logging and I usually use paper.
After the contest I enter the info into the computer but I plan to just
have the computer running and do it one QSO at a time.

None of my radios have any kind of CAT "feature". I do NOT want my radio
to be smarter than me so they have to stay pretty dern stooopid. The
logging programs let me enter the frequency I am using in whatever
format I want AND just keep using the same info for each QSO until I
change it. I would enter something like 160M or 1.8 (as in mc) but I
could as easily put in 1.835001. Radios smarter than me can tell the
computer where they are operating (maybe to the nearest 50 or 100
cycles. Checking for W/VE QSOs in the DX window would work for at least
those stations with Baccalaureate radios. Any kind of policing of that
nature would be encumbered with challenges and appeals processes and
final results could take years.

If CAT and computer logging become a requirement those of us without CAT
or computer logging will be banned - de facto. Come to think of it my
contest operation is already pretty low key. There are always the WARC
bands and the expected new allocation at 600 meters. I can't imagine
contests in THAT band.

Or...we could all just play by the contest rules and agreements.

73,

Bill  KU8H


On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 18:22 -0800, Darrell Bellerive wrote:
> Being unencumbered by knowledge of contest log reporting and checking 
> perhaps I am missing something.
> 
> Since virtually all contest stations use automated logging programs and 
> these programs could get the actual transmit frequency directly from the 
> transceiver as the contact is logged, then why couldn't a log check 
> computer program simply check for non DX contacts within a DX window?
> 
> I guess that would mean requiring an exact frequency rather than a 
> generic frequency to be submitted in the Cabrillo format, but certainly 
> that doesn't seem to hard to code into the logging program.
> 
> I suppose this could even be crosschecked in the other station's log to 
> rule out computer errors.
> 
> Apply penalties for a certain number of violations to allow for true 
> mistakes, but once above a certain limit, disqualification.
> 
> I will crawl back under my rock now.
> 
> 73, Darrell VA7TO
> 
> Darrell Bellerive


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