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Re: Topband: W3NQN BCB Filter

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Subject: Re: Topband: W3NQN BCB Filter
From: "Jeff Blaine" <>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:00:11 -0600
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I have the same issues here. And the similar observation - filtering before the preamp of some kind is needed.

Regarding Steve's solution below, an alternative is available from K8ZOA Jack Smith. 9th order elliptical with pricing is about half the Array offering.

It's about -40 db at 1700 with a roll off starting just below 1800.

Order options include 50 or 75 ohm, SMA, F-type or UHF, and some case varieties.

I have no horse in Jack's race. He's a first class RF enginner, builds great stuff - and I'm a very satisfied customer hence the mention.


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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:30 PM
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Subject: Topband: W3NQN BCB Filter

This topic has been covered before on this list. I believe that my recent experience is also worth reporting.

After over a decade of operating on 160m, I'd never experienced any significant problems with BC carriers other than very weak carriers on 1810, 1820, 1830, 1840 kHz etc. The greater Los Angeles area is not at a loss for high power BC stations. Several weeks ago a very loud and wide signal appeared for the first time on 1840 kHz in addition to others every 10 kHz. These spurs were a bit weaker after sunset but still loud and wide. Any legitimate 160m signal within about 3 kHz of these spurs could not be copied. The spurs' modulation matched that of a broadcast station six miles from my location. With the assistance of a local broadcast signal compliance expert, signal strength measurements were made using professional grade equipment close to the BC station's transmitting towers as well as at my station. The spurious signals were just out of regulatory specifications and the modulation was mushy. The station's engineer was contacted. He advertised that he would perform some s
tandard maintenance. To date, nothing has changed.

All of the possible combinations of equipment at my station were tried in an attempt to isolate and diagnose the problem. The result was that the spurs appeared only with an external preamp in the path with a full size receiving flag. This was observed with not just a single preamp but with a second preamp of an entirely different design.

I inserted a W3NQN Receive Only BCB filter between the flag and each of the two preamps, one at a time. The result in both cases was that the spurs were reduced to very weak carriers daytime and to a just perceptible level when the BC station switched to nighttime power (10 kW to 490 watts). Something has likely changed in the BC's station signal, causing the preamps to become overloaded resulting in IMD problems.

This filter has an extremely sharp cut-off below 1700 kHz. I understand that precision tolerance components are hand selected for custom assembly of each filter to guarantee the specified response. W3NQN has started to label his products "Design, Assembly and Testing by W3NQN."

These filters have a well deserved reputation. The BCB is superb.

73 - Steve WB6RSE

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