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Re: Topband: Spiderbeam mast suggestions needed

To: "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>, <Topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Spiderbeam mast suggestions needed
From: "GeorgeWallner" <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:19:59 -0400
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Jim,

My home QTH and all my DXpeditions had SpiderPole verticals for 80 and 160 (and other bands). You have a wide range of options. A lot depends on how much work you are willing to do and how much efficiency you want to squeeze out of the system.

The simplest arrangement would be a low loss loading coil (around 60 uH) somewhere in the middle to resonate the antenna on 1.9 MHz. Use AWG #14 insulated wire for the whole length and fold it back at the tip to create a 30 cm (1 foot) diameter loop to reduce voltages on the tip and to add a little bit of top loading. Add an approximately 8 uH inductor between the base and GND. You will find a 50 ohm tap point on the inductor somewhere around the center. For the base inductor use 1/4 inch copper pipe or large diameter wire. For 80 m use a relay to switch in a suitable L matching network.

An alternative is to use an inverted L configuration. Use very thin wire for the horizontal section to reduce the side load as the tope part of the SpiderPole is very flexible. You may find that you can get decent SWR with the 50 ohm coax connected directly to the feed-point. (That would indicate a high ground system impedance and substantial losses, but...) Otherwise use a simple L network to match the coax to the feed-point. One word of caution, an inverted L that is resonant on 160 will have a very high reactive feed-point impedance on 80 and will also have a high radiation angle. You can use a shorter horizontal wire (around 8 meters) and two switchable matching networks, one for 80 and one for 160 m. An alternative to consider is to leave off the top two sections of the 26 m SpiderPole to create a stiffer pole which can hold more side load. The horizontal wire would have to be correspondingly longer but the improvement in mechanical strength would be well worth the slightly lower efficiency.

For something a lot more elaborate (and something that can cover all bands, check out the antenna used on VK9GMW. (http://vk9gmw.com/documents/VK9GMW_ANTENNA.pdf ) That antenna worked great because of the salt water, but with enough radials you could get good performance on land too.

For a permanent installation I strongly recommend that you paint the antenna once you got it working. Use flexible urethane paint. It will make it last 5 times longer. You should also have at least 3 guy ropes, attached somewhere around the middle. For ultimate strength, buy two poles and insert one inside the other. The antenna at my QTH has an 11 m tall 100 mm diameter aluminum tube with two 18 m SpiderPoles on top, for a total height of 29 m. No guy ropes. It works from 160 to 30 m via a tuner and has been up since 2009. (You can see a picture of this antenna on my QRZ.com page.)

GL and 73,

George,
AA7JV


On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:46:43 -0600
 "Jim Garland" <4cx250b@miamioh.edu> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm _finally_ trying to erect a decent vertical for 80m and 160m, and have purchased a 26m (85ft) Spiderbeam mast. I'd really like to hear from guys who have used this mast for these bands. I'll have about 60 120ft radials. I've seen sheet from the manufacturer about using the mast as a monoband 160m shortened vertical. The diagram shows a wire wound aound the mast, with 4 7m wires near the top for a capacity hat, but wonder what other configurations people have used? Also, if possible I'd like to be able to use the mast on both 80m and 160m. It will located about 600 ft from my
house.

73,

Jim W8ZR

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