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Re: Topband: Ferrites and verticals

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Subject: Re: Topband: Ferrites and verticals
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:55:58 -0700
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On 8/11/2014 12:34 PM, jcjacobsen@q.com wrote:
Is a choke needed on the feed line

The function of a common mode choke at that point is to prevent the coax from becoming a radial. Your radial system, whatever it is, also does that, to the extent that it's a good radial system. 32 radials 32 ft long is not a great radial system for 160M, but it isn't terrible either. :) The extent to which a choke might help depends on the length of the feedline and what problems if any you are experiencing. Common mode current on the coax can contribute to RX noise, and can put RF in the shack. Since simple verticals aren't usually very quiet on RX, a choke isn't likely to help with the noise.

  and if so, how many #31 snap on ferrites are needed for proper function.

A single turn through #31 and #43 ferrite cores is useless on 160M because it provides only a small value of inductance. The problem with inductance at that point is that a feedline shorter than a quarter wave (treating it as a long wire antenna, so Vf = 0.98) is capacitive, so inductance simply cancels some of the inductive reactance and the feedline current increases.

A good choke for 160M needs a lot of turns through a #31 core. That means either small coax through a medium size core, or multiple big cores with big (RG8/213) coax.

See specific winding recommendations in k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf Chapter 8 - Choke Cookbook, and study the preceding material to understand how it all works.

73, Jim K9YC
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