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Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting com

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Subject: Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas
From: Lloyd Berg N9LB <lloydberg@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:14:26 -0500 (EST)
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I have received many suggestions and ideas on this subject.

Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources at 90 and 270 degrees is proving to be a challenge.

Greg has offered an interesting idea that would integrate noise canceling/nulling technology with a traditional RX receive antenna system. Possibly providing a "best of both worlds" solution. I want to share this idea with this group to see if others have any experience with this proposed solution.

I could place a "noise antenna" next to each neighbor, mix the equal-length feed lines together ( in phase ) for the noise source null, and then place the actual receive antenna (in-line verticals, loops, K9AY or Shared Apex ) right in the very center of my yard ( centered/equidistant from the noise antennas ).

Has anyone used multiple noise antennas feeding a single noise canceling device?

Has anyone cascaded/combined a noise canceling device such as the NCC-1 or MFJ-1026 with a traditional short RX vertical(s) array or loop(s) or K9AY or Shared Apex?

Thank you and 73

Lloyd - N9LB


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Greg Chartrand via Topband wrote:

Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice (Lloyd Berg - N9LB)
 I had a similar situation about 15 years ago with my next door neighbor who had something in his house that was giving me S9 raspy noise 24x7. I could not find the source in his house but I suspected  his doorbell transformer that was buried inside a wall of his house. The noise precluded all DX on 160 not to mention everything else.  I purchased an MFJ-1026 and had a sense antenna directly between my vertical (receiving antenna) and his house. I was able to completely null out the noise from his house right down to atmospherics. I worked a lot of DX using the 1026 and about 4 years later the noise went away without explanation.  You can put up flags, loops, pennants... whatever but none of them will have a null anywhere near what you can do with a 1026 and sense antenna .... assuming that the noise source appears as a single point. You can verify this using a portable AM radio and using the loop-stick antenna in it to null the noise. If it nulls well, the 1026 would be a good investment.  

Good luck!Greg
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