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Re: Topband: [Bulk] Top Loading wires

To: "'Stan Stockton'" <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Top Loading wires
From: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:09:28 -0500
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T hanks for  the correction, Stan. My old eyes missed that!!  A 90' tower won't 
require much top-loading at all!

Sorry for my error

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Stockton [mailto:wa5rtg@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Charlie Cunningham
Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Top Loading wires

It's a 90 foot tower he is describing.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Charlie Cunningham 
> <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Gee, I surely agree with Grant, Larry!  I've used EZNEC for MANY years, with 
> great results, and I've designed, built, tested and measured many wonderful 
> EZNEC designs - including some really complex "killer" antennas!
> 
> 
> I do think that 28' top loading wires will be WAY TOO SHORT  atop 50 ft. of 
> Rohn 25! More like 50-70' will be needed to resonate that tower. You will 
> probably do just as well with TWO top-loading wires in a Tee configuration! 
> The point is for the top-loading wires to extend the tower to 1/4 wave 
> resonance on 160.  Of course you could make an excellent 80m antenna with the 
> 50' tower and some modest top-loading wires approaching the length that you 
> are considering. GL!
> 
> If you are going to be experimenting with low-band antennas, EZNEC is a GREAT 
> investment
> 
> 73,
> Charlie, K4OTV                 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Grant 
> Saviers
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:28 AM
> To: Larry - K1UO; Topband Reflector
> Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Top Loading wires
> 
> With an insulated tower, the cheapest EZNEC and other free NECs will yield 
> good results.  Would you rather climb, cut, and trim a few times or spend $89 
> to get EZNEC?  Simple to learn.  And the demo version is free  eznec.com
> 
> Grant KZ1W
> no affiliation, just a long term happy user
> 
>> On 2/4/2015 7:27 AM, Larry - K1UO wrote:
>> Could someone tell me the length of top loading wires (4 wires planned) 
>> needed to add to the top of a base insulated 90 foot Rohn 25g tower to 
>> maximize the radiation resistance on 160 meters.  I understand there is a 
>> point of diminishing returns on the top loading lengths.  The 4 wire angles 
>> will be around 45 degrees or as close as possible.    If I knew how to model 
>> ,or even had a modeling program, I would attempt this already relatively 
>> simple task to many.
>> From 50+ years of practical experience, I am ‘guessing’ maybe 28 feet long 
>> each?
>> 
>> 
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