Hi Jorge,
Bill is almost correct, in most soils mechanical durability is the only
consideration for long term durability of copper wire, but out of sight
out of mind can be a big problem for radial systems in at least two 
cases.
Galvanic corrosion will damage a buried radial system i f small (or 
large!)
electrical currents flow from the shield of your coaxial cable into 
your radial
system. Of course, small diameter wire will fail more quickly than 
heavier
wire. This is not a trivial consideration because in many 
installations the
buried radial system has significantly lower ground resistance than any
other ground in your home or in your station. You can determine if 
this is a
problem in your installation by using a milliammeter (or a common VOM)
to check for shield current.
Corrosive soils may damage a buried radial system. Fortunately most 
soils
are not corrosive for copper but there are important exceptions, some
examples are:
- soils with large quantities of organic matter,
- poorly drained soils such as wetlands,
- soils with a history of heavy agricultural use with farm animals or 
fertilizers
- soils containing materials such as cinders or cinder blocks.
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Wichers" <billw@waveform.net>
To: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>, "topband" 
<topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:27:01 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: radial wire size
The only real difference when using reasonable-gauge sizes is in 
physical durability. Electrically it makes little difference since 
you effectively have a large number of radials in parallel so each 
one carries only a relatively small percentage of the overall current 
in the system.
I use 18 gauge bare solid copper on my radials. I use that size since 
I consider it a practical minimum in terms of physical durability and 
I can get it for around $50/thousand feet from my supplier (although 
they have a 5,000 foot minimum order). I've had some 60+ radials in 
place for about 4-5 years without any problems. Once the copper turns 
a dull-brown color after the first season it's almost impossible to 
see on the ground.
A lot of people use 14 gauge since that's a commonly available size 
for building wire in the US. It's easy to get through "regular" 
(hardware store) channels and it's strong. There isn't really any 
electrical advantage to the heavier wire -- you won't notice any 
difference in performance.
I think you'll be fine with the #17 wire you have access to. Save the 
money on the smaller radial wire and spend it somewhere else where it 
will make more difference in your overall antenna system.
-Bill
Hello
Thinking in a 4 SQ, buried radials, 60 or more on each vertical
What is the difference in performance between installing radial wire 
size
#14 (2.08 mm2) or #17 (1.04 mm2) ?
#14 is the size that DXE sell, so I think is a good size for 
radials. But what about
#17?
In $$$ is the half J, so want to know what I am loosing in 
performance, if any
Thanks in advance
73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W
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