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Re: Topband: A "valid" QSO????

To: Jorge Diez CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: A "valid" QSO????
From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 10:37:03 -0500
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Jorge -
  Some contests have explicit instructions about how to deal with stations
that didn't send a valid exchange. For example, the CQ WW FAQ says we are
supposed to log the zone they should've sent; some other contests say to
put in a zero for serial number if they don't send a serial number.

  For TBDC there is no penalty for busted exchanges so may as well leave it
in, maybe with a note to the logchecker. I think the log robot deals with
X-QSO: records, and that's what I'm going to do with the guy who didn't
send me an exchange last night.

  Note that sometimes stations think they are entering contests seriously
but due to station automation actually don't know their exchange macro is
wrong wrong wrong. In the most recent running of CQWWCW a big time
contester never sent a valid exchange, just morse gobbledygook, and because
he was uber-SO2R maybe he never even knew what he was sending. Probably got
asked for a lot of fills!!!

Tim N3QE

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Jorge Diez CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Rod
>
> Ups, sorry, didn't notice that reply only to you
>
> 73,
> Jorge
>
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> > El 27 dic. 2015, a las 11:37, James Rodenkirch <Rodenkirch_LLC@msn.com>
> escribió:
> >
> >
> > Jorge - I'm unsure about that one...ask everyone else - send your
> question to topband@contesting.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:33 AM
> > To: James Rodenkirch
> > Subject: Re: Topband: A "valid" QSO????
> >
> > Yesterday, a USA station worked me on the Stew Perry. But didnt send me
> his grid locator. I asked him several times and never return with the
> exchange
> >
> > Maybe he need CX and just called me, so what I must do? Delete this QSO?
> Put the default grid locator?
> >
> > 73,
> > Jorge
> > CX6VM/CW5W
> >
> > 2015-12-27 9:09 GMT-03:00 James Rodenkirch <Rodenkirch_LLC@msn.com>:
> >> Jim K9YC wrote, "A valid contact is the exchange of callsigns and one
> additional piece of information, followed by acknowledgement by both
> stations. When running QRP at the limits of propagation, that exchange can
> take a while."
> >>
> >>
> >> Where would one find official documentation to support that posit?
> >>
> >>
> >> I see some verbiage stating that in some sort of ARRL operating manual
> written by Mark Wilson, Jim....is that your "source of support"? I've
> ntalked to ARRL staff who contend one doesn't need anything other than the
> exchange of call signs so....I'm just "axin'"!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > 73,
> > Jorge
> > CX6VM/CW5W
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