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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 161, Issue 18

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Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 161, Issue 18
From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:39:14 +0000
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There are a number of research and commercial ionospheric sounders running
pretty much all the time.
If you have a panadapter you can see and if listening hear them.
Lots of info found using the search term: Chirp Sounding OR Sounder
I found this one interesting.

I suspect there are also spread spectrum sounders running.

73, -Bob ah7i/w4


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> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:46:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim <wa3mej@comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
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> Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90%
> of the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the
> perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER
> frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data
> than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data
> and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is
> your to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could
> filter out what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other
> side of the planet was during the eclipse.
>
> If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel Laureate
> ( Physics ) Joe Taylor K1JT here is the web site:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
>
>
> Jim
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
> From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
> To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Topband@contesting. com" <Topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
>
>
> This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
> for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
> is a propagation enhancer.
>
> Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
> data for free.
>
> We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.
>
> Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study of
> > the Ionosphere using RBN.
> >
> > http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton
> >
> > 73s
> > N4HY
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob McGwier
> > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
> > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
> > Research Professor Virginia Tech
> > Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
> > Technology
> > Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
> > Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
> > Director of AMSAT
> > _________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:31:37 -0400
> From: "Hardy Landskov" <n7rt@cox.net>
> To: "'Jim'" <wa3mej@comcast.net>,       <topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
> Message-ID: <019801d1bab2$44ae6580$ce0b3080$@net>
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> Should be 24 hrs--right?
> N7RT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 3:46 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
>
> Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90% of
> the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the
> perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER
> frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data
> than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data
> and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is
> your
> to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could filter
> out
> what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other side of
> the
> planet was during the eclipse.
>
> If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel Laureate
> (
> Physics ) Joe Taylor K1JT here is the web site:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
>
>
> Jim
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
> From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
> To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Topband@contesting. com" <Topband@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
>
>
> This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
> for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
> is a propagation enhancer.
>
> Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
> data for free.
>
> We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.
>
> Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study
> > of the Ionosphere using RBN.
> >
> > http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton
> >
> > 73s
> > N4HY
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob McGwier
> > Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
> > Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor
> > Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for
> > National Security and Technology Senior Member IEEE, Facebook:
> > N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn.
> > (K4KDJ) Director of AMSAT _________________ Topband Reflector Archives
> > - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:57:58 +0000
> From: "Dave Blaschke, w5un" <w5un@wt.net>
> To: Jim <wa3mej@comcast.net>, topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
> Message-ID: <a029bb42-c898-42d8-62ea-8e158870089a@wt.net>
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>
> This is why. I want to know who is calling CQ on there.
>
> Dave
>
> On 5/30/2016 7:46 PM, Jim wrote:
> > Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90%
> of the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the
> perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER
> frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data
> than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data
> and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is
> your to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could
> filter out what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other
> side of the planet was during the eclipse.
> >
> > If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel
> Laureate ( Physics ) Joe Taylor K1JT here is the web site:
> > http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
> > From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
> > To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Topband@contesting. com" <Topband@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
> >
> >
> > This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of
> activity
> > for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of
> eclipse
> > is a propagation enhancer.
> >
> > Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood
> of
> > data for free.
> >
> > We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.
> >
> > Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study
> of
> >> the Ionosphere using RBN.
> >>
> >> http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton
> >>
> >> 73s
> >> N4HY
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob McGwier
> >> Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
> >> Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
> >> Research Professor Virginia Tech
> >> Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
> >> Technology
> >> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
> >> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
> >> Director of AMSAT
> >> _________________
> >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >>
> >
> > _________________
> > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
> >
>
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