In my experience (sine 1957) casual CW DX contacts have nearly always 
been RST, QTH, Name, and for a long QSO maybe Rig.  A memory keyer can 
do most of TX, and nowadays there are fairly good CW decoders.  Not much 
different from other digital modes.
It seems to me that most of the thrill of DX is when the DX first 
returns your call.  Soon you are ready to move on to another conquest.
Contacts between friends are an entirely different matter.
On 4/1/2018 9:20 AM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
 
There is good and bad with the FT8.
 The good is that it is bringing guys into the HF DX realm who never 
got active in DX because for whatever reason they felt they did not 
have a good DX station.  The bad is that the focus on RTTY (my 
favorite mode) has become less especially for DXpeditions in favor of 
the idea of FT8.  The logic behind these varies with the guy - but I 
think after the excitement and shine of FT8 wears off, the net will be 
still more total participants in HF.  That's got to be a good thing.
 I don't feel bad for the dxpedition community especially wanting to 
promote FT8 over RTTY.  Working a RTTY pileup on the dxpedition end 
can result in pathetic rates and there has been no effort to promote a 
multi-slot skimmer type of software package that would make RTTY 
pileup into the high rate that is possible.  Along comes FT8 with the 
promise to do just that in an upcoming package so I view the 
dxpedition guys moving to FT8 as a logical choice over RTTY simply 
because it will end up having a higher rate than what most RTTY runs 
end up being.  I don't run FT8 at the moment but if a dxpedition is 
only running FT8 for the digital slot, I guess I will run it.  The 
genie is out of the bottle there.
 It would certainly help if the ARRL especially had not homogenize the 
RTTY and all other digital modes into one for the purpose of the 
DXCC.  Why not issue separate certificates for each popular mode and 
benefit from the fees that would bring to the ARRL?  That would also 
make a lot of guys who have worked their life's for the RTTY DXCC 
count not feel as if the accomplishment is being diluted by FT8 and 
the other ether-modes.  But the ARRL's decisions more and more defy 
logic so I suppose that's a topic for another day.
 But for contesting and rag chewing and DX, I'm in the camp as the 
other traditionalists are - the op on the end talking into the mic, 
slapping the paddle or typing to try to keep up with the RTTY feed is 
what a real QSO is about.  FT8 does result in a technical QSO but I'm 
not sure where the sustained enjoyment in that mode is beyond making 
the contact.
73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com
On 01-Apr-18 7:49 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
 
Some questions in my mind.
 How important is RF in the evolution of amateur radio? Would those 
who operate using FT8 be a lot less interested if it were just 
computers linking them with others without transmitted RF? How about 
operator involvement or skill?
 How important is it that hams retain 4 MHz of spectrum on 6m or other 
bands if most everyone has abandoned CW and SSB?
 Is there some sense of achievement when there is so much headroom in 
power alone that another 3 dB or even another 20 dB is so easy to 
achieve?
 About 50% of my enjoyment of the hobby is thinking, many hours of 
every day, about how to somehow achieve another dB on some band or 
another with a better antenna.  After about 50 hours of modeling I am 
now drilling tubing to make what I hope will be a great pair of 
tribanders to take to ZF9CW location.  One person's total waste of 
time is another's passion.
 To each his own, but for the long term future of what has provided so 
many of us with a lifetime of enjoyment, woe is me.
73... Stan, K5GO
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