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Re: Topband: KH1/KH7Z TopBand Ops Brief

To: GEORGE WALLNER <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>, Dave Sharred via Topband <topband@contesting.com>, uy0zg <uy0zg@mksat.net>, Peter Voelpel <dj7ww@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Topband: KH1/KH7Z TopBand Ops Brief
From: Dave Sharred via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Dave Sharred <g3nkc@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 08:25:33 +0100
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George, I know you guys will have made the best efforts to optimise your tx 
capability,  I totally agree with your last comment too.
Hats off to you guys, over the years we know that you have given numerous new 
ones to many on 160m
73
Dave G3NKC 


Sent from Samsung tablet

-------- Original message --------
From: GEORGE WALLNER <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net> 
Date: 15/07/2018  01:06  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Dave Sharred <g3nkc@yahoo.co.uk>, Dave Sharred via Topband 
<topband@contesting.com>, uy0zg <uy0zg@mksat.net>, Peter Voelpel 
<dj7ww@t-online.de> 
Subject: Re: Topband: KH1/KH7Z TopBand Ops Brief 

Dave,The "Fat" TX antenna worked pretty well towards the N - NW. Also, by the 
early mornings I was able to turn up the TX power to 1400 W, as the other CW 
stations went off the air.So, Ukrain, while clearly at the edge, was entirely 
possible. Of course, I would have been very suspicious if I heard a G or EI 
calling... but I did not hear anything out of line.As you point out, the DX 
operator has no way to tell if somebody is listening via a remote receiver. 
Anyway, I think that anybody cheating, is primarily cheating himself.73,George  
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 10:12:15 +0100 Dave Sharred via Topband 
<topband@contesting.com> wrote:
   I have no axe to grind, I wasn't QRV. Hever,  Nick does raise a good 
point.First, if it is correct there is a small possibility of propagain around 
Sunset for Serbia and Ukraine, 20 minute window to Baker Is.   However, it's 
not really the dx season for EU to Pacific. With great respect the Baker Is. 
Topband system was compromised,  a 43ft fat vertical,  so an EU QSO must be 
optimistic at best.  If the EU guys had fantastic antennas, they may just be 
able to make the trip, with lots more power potentially too.   To me, if you 
are using a favourable located remote RX,  not in EU, that would not be a good 
QSO in my ethics.Further, since these things are available, it's not in my 
ethics to use remote tx/rx outside of your home country, to claim dx contacts.  
Lastly, from the dx end, it's impossible to tell if the QSO is remote assisted 
or not, however, if it's outside of a real opening time, if I was the dx, I 
would delete the qso from my log as dubious 73 Dave G3NKC  (op at MD4K, PZ5K 
and others)  Sent from Samsung tablet  -------- Original message --------From: 
uy0zg <uy0zg@mksat.net>  Date: 14/07/2018  09:48  (GMT+00:00)  To: Peter 
Voelpel <dj7ww@t-online.de>  Cc: topband@contesting.com  Subject: Re: Topband: 
KH1/KH7Z TopBand Ops Brief   Peter, Peter....  We all know each other here ( in 
Ukraine).   Hard DX, such as KH1, can hear even in the season (autumn-spring) 
as a  whole several antennas - UR5AS, UR0MC, UX1UA ..  And now it's summer! 
July ..  Do not be children, gentlemen.   Nick,UY0ZG   Peter Voelpel писал 
2018-07-14 11:17:

 It seems that nowadays there are many who believe that remote reception  was 
used by others when they were not able to work a dx station.  
http://k9la.us/160m_Ducting_and_Spotlight_Propagation_revA.pdf ; 73 Peter, DJ7WW
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