Dear TopBanders,
I think the League's rules have not caught up with the digital age.
Four things have changed since the "analog age":
1. Noise is up
2. 160 meter DXCC (and up) is one of the last remaining HF DX challenges
3. Shared low-noise RX sites have become easy to build and for many may be
the only hope for 160 m DX
4. Remote operation has become quite common (more then we think), but its
not all the same
There are two kinds of remote operations:
A) A Ham has his remote station within the same region or country and
operates through that
B) Somebody uses a remote station to gain a favorable position for a DX.
A) and B) are very different animals. For A), the station address should be
the remote site: i.e. not the radio is remote, but the operator. B) should
not be allowed for DXCC credits (but play with it all you want as long you
ID correctly)
The current rules make little sense: Not a precise analog, but it is like a
target range where you were not allowed to use a scope, but you could walk
up to the target and put the muzzle against the bulls-eye. And get credit
for it!
My 1.9 cents worth...
George
AA7JV/C6AGU
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:44:31 +0000 (UTC)
Dan Edward Dba East edwards <dan.n.edwards@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
gotta chip in my $0.02 on this, for what little it may be worth..
i have access to some remote rural property, here in texas, and in oklahoma..but
k5rk and w7rh pointed out 'its not legal for dxcc if an Rx only site'....but
RHR is ok ( ????? )
the league's requirement that my transmit antenna be there also greatly increases the cost /
time / complexity commitment compared to an Rx only site; i COULD continue to Tx from my
home qth, and listen from someplace quieter, with more favorable local terrain..IF
it was 'legal' for DXCC..
how about 'same call area' or adjacent states / provinces instead of 500m ?????
presently, still struggling with man made noise in Hunter's Creek, longview, texas...a
very long ways from any salt water...VERY lucky to land zone 17 recently, #38, on
demon-cheater mode ( FT-8 )... atter 10 years on 160m, when i started from scratch.
happy holidays, y'all, and good luck!
73, W5XZ, dan
On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 8:05:50 AM CST, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Joe,
I would have never assumed that you have acreage whether 5 acres or
something the size of the King Ranch. All of those electrical belches
are difficult to escape. Moving your receiver out into the swamp,
forest, desert, craggy mountaintop or anywhere besides your desktop can
help. Using DSP can help and maybe even more than physical isolation.
Remote receivers can have both. Have you tried DSP?
The software packages come with spectrum displays - much like
panadapters - and I have been able to pick out Morse signals between the
points of some digital crap resembling the Burger King's crown. Without
the DSP there was no way to even hear that CW signal or know it existed.
It's not 1956 any more. We have to do whatever we have to do to pull
those signals out. Where I live my worst handicap is my 100 foot lot
followed by the automotive body shop and it's welders about 250 feet
from my back door. DSP is able to pull some signals out even when the
welder is in use! In spite of my undersize antennas. 160 DXCC? It ain't
going to happen here. I shouldn't even be on 160 meters, But I keep trying.
73,
Bill KU8H
On 11/22/18 7:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
On 2018-11-22 2:08 AM, kolson@rcn.com wrote:
And this is easy to say when you have 5 acres in a semi-rural area, hi
hi.
With no antennas. I have not been seriously active on low bands in the
20 years I've been here precisely because of the increasing prevalence
of the multiple remote receiver/remote station operations. However,
even semi-rural areas have significant problems with noise from poorly
maintained power lines, neighbor's plasma TVs, etc.
Multiple remote receiver/"pick your remote station" is the scourge of
DXCC in general as it completely removes both station building and
operating skills from the equation and replaces them with the check
book. One might as well replace amateur radio with "hamsphere" or
IRL.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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