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Re: Topband: Transmit High Pass Filters for BCB Interference

To: Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Transmit High Pass Filters for BCB Interference
From: Julius G via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Julius G <K4SXT@rocketmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:19:07 -0400
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When I was in Guam I used a Dunestar 400hpf with good results

Gus  K4SXT

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 14:08, Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Had a similar problem at Field Day a few years ago with WJR (50,000 watt
> station).  Noticed the problem was not present when antenna tuner was
> inline.  Many modern rigs have broadband front ends which provide very
> little attenuation to out of band signals, and just the addition of an
> antenna tuner solved our problem (the tuner provided very good out of band
> filtering).
> 
> Don (wd8dsb)
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 1:34 PM Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is what I used when I had the same problem 50kw line of sight 4
>> miles 1MHz.  Expensive, but worked very well.
>> http://herostechnology.co.uk/pages/RF_Filters.html
>> 
>> Having the filter between rig and amp worked fine for me.  200w rating
>> for the Heros.
>> 
>> My power line had ~1v of RF, so ebay Sprague 20 amp line filters were on
>> the shack 120v supply and 240v amp also.  Plus 240-31 ferrites on the
>> green wires.
>> 
>> It will take some proper ferrite chokes to kill the RF on the coax
>> shields and any other control cables.  Plus a good ground system.
>> 
>> IMO, Dunestars have poor reliability for their HF bandpass filters when
>> on DXpeditions.
>> 
>> I always like to see the VNA sweep in the ad and then use my VNWA to
>> test whatever I buy since the tuning is hand optimized.  A couple went
>> back for retuning.
>> 
>> K9YC has some comments re BCB rejection for 6 band filter sets.  That is
>> another alternative.
>> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/BandpassFilterSurvey.pdf
>> 
>> Grant KZ1W
>> 
>>> On 7/29/2019 9:29 AM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
>>> A friend of mine in our local radio club sent me the following email
>>> 
>>> "I'm 6/10's of a mile from an AM 910 KHz. transmitter. They operate with
>> 5k
>>> daytime and 2k at night.
>>> 
>>> They're S9+45db on 160 meters with clear audio and S9+35db on 80 meters.
>>> have an inverted "V" resonant at 3.715 MHz. orientated east-west, towards
>>> their reflector tower."
>>> 
>>> The station is willing to pay for a filter for my friends station,  and
>> he
>>> has looked at notch and band pass filters but has concerns.
>>> 
>>> I recommended he look at transmit high pass filters to knock out signals
>>> below 1.8 Mhz and provided him with various links:
>>> 
>>> https://www.dunestar.com/store/160-Meter-Highpass-Filter-pid-8.html
>>> 
>>> http://www.kf7p.com/KF7P/Morgan_Filters.html
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.dxengineering.com/search/part-type/transmit-high-pass-filters/product-line/dlw-associates-am-broadcast-band-brick-wall-high-pass-filters?autoview=SKU&sortby=Default&sortorder=Default
>>> 
>>> I have no practical experience with any of these filters and was
>> wondering
>>> what the TB Gang thought.
>>> 
>>> He would prefer one that handled 1.5 KW but I told him he may have to
>>> settle for 200W.
>>> 
>>> He prefers an "out of the box" solution.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Mark K3MSB
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