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Re: Topband: 43’ 80 Meter Vertical

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Subject: Re: Topband: 43’ 80 Meter Vertical
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:07:19 -0700
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On 4/10/2021 1:16 PM, Chortek, Robert L. wrote:
Hoping to get some guidance from the antenna gurus here.

I’ve just built a 43’ vertical (14 GA THHN) supported by a Spiderbeam pole.  It’s base 
loaded and my RigExpert shows total loss, not counting Rrad, of 33 Ohms.  It’s roughly 33 efficient.

Why 43 ft for a vertical designed for 80M? Better to build as tall as practical up to a quarter wave, using top-loading as required to match it. 43 ft was chosen by designers of multi-band verticals for reasons having nothing to do with 80M but everything to do with marketing an "all band" solution. See my tutorial on this, which references some fine work by AD5X.

http://k9yc.com/43FtVertical.pdf

Sloping loading wires will reduce it's electrical height by a bit less than their difference in height, so more is better electrically, and three or four equally spaced provides structural support.

Can someone tell me if I added two top hat wires 16 GA THHN sloping at 45 degrees 
“about” how long they would need to be to resonate at 3.545 MHZ.

This is a VERY easy antenna to model in NEC. Good opportunity to learn to use it. It's a vertical wire connected to ground with a generator in the segment, an additional wire for each of the top loading wires. A wire is defined simply by its xyz coordinates, and the easy way to generate wires equally rotated around a single point is the copy function.

Another point -- loss is pretty low in RG8/213-size coax on 80M unless the feedline is pretty long, so achieving a perfect match at the base may not be very important if you have a decent tuner in the shack. What matters a LOT more is your radial/counterpoise system. Study this tutorial about 160M verticals and divide all the lengths by two.

http://k9yc.com/160MPacificon.pdf

73, Jim K9YC
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