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Re: Topband: Materials for Beverages?

To: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Materials for Beverages?
From: Kenneth Grimm <grimm@sbc.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 08:57:49 -0400
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
I've been using black and yellow screw in insulators to support beverage
wires for years with no problems....well, with the insulators that
is...plenty of problems with falling trees, etc.
73,
Ken - K4XL

On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 6:46 PM Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> wrote:

> N7QT & I verified that black ring screw-in insulators are too conductive
> for one or two transmit radials on 160m.  Lot's of arcs and smoke.  I
> now use the yellow 4" long barb wire insulators screwed to trees to
> support 160m elevated Tx radials.
>
> Black may not be a problem with Beverage field strengths.
>
> Grant KZ1W
>
> On 8/3/2021 11:16, Tim Duffy wrote:
> > Two things concern me about black. UV and possible carbon used to color
> > black - which may be conductive at RF frequencies
> >
> > 73
> > Tim K3LR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+k3lr=k3lr.com@contesting.com] On
> > Behalf Of Drew Vonada-Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:02 PM
> > To: topband@contesting.com
> > Subject: Topband: Materials for Beverages?
> >
> > Gene,
> >
> > I have used those and others in that series with only fair results.
> They do
> > break more often than I'd like.  I replace about 10% of them per year,
> which
> > is acceptable given that they are cheap. But I have not found anything
> > better.
> >
> > FYI - I'd be happy to use black ones, but have never seen them.  My local
> > farm store carries the exact same bright yellow ones you listed.  A link
> to
> > a "preferred type" would be welcome.  I'm a bit of a birder and have not
> > heard of any hummingbird death issues.  References?
> >
> > 73,
> > Drew K3PA
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > Toda
> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 16:35:47 -0400
> > From: Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net>
> > To: topband@contesting.com
> > Subject: Topband: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Amazon recommends "Zareba
> >          ITY-Z Standard..." and more
> > Message-ID: <78ef5d0e-0d78-c118-0819-e5ccc2dd72f3@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > FYI.? Materials for Beverages?
> >
> > 73 de
> > Gene Smar? AD3F
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Gene Smar,
> >
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