You guys don't know what you are talking about.
The WSJT Modes, including FT8 and FT4, require a live operator ( not someone
sleeping ) to initiate each contact.
( There is also a time-out timer that limits the number of times it
calls/replies before going back to standby )
and
The ARRL requires at live operator ( not someone sleeping ) to initiate each
contact before they will consider the contact legitimate.
-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+lloydberg=tds.net@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Hans Hjelmström
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 1:49 PM
To: kq2m@kq2m.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: J28MD, conditions
Hi Bob
And I can tell you,,,,I feel same,,,,PLUS it has also destroyed the fun on
50 mc. NO CW or SSB to be heard ( except TZ4AM and TT8SN still on CW/SSB).
Both 5V7RU/ ty5RU and J28MD ONLY FT 8 unheard mode. NOT even a try on CW,even
that conditions are perfect.
This is VERY SAD and will impact of activity in future for many of us.
Take care and stay safe
Hans SM6CVX / NO Ft 8 ever
> 5 nov 2022 kl. 19:39 skrev kq2m@kq2m.com:
>
>
> On Tuesday I heard but could not work VK6IR, but I did work VK6GX on Thursday
> for my first zone 29 qso on 160 since VK6HD about 3 decades ago.
> My antenna is a modest 160 Inv L with elevated radials. When the band
> has very good cndx I can work almost anything that I can hear. But on
> the marginal days there is quite a bit of long-haul DX that eludes me.
> ;-) (I'm still missing zones 22, 23, 24, 26, and 27)
>
> What is maddening to me is that it used to be that FT4 / FT8 was used by some
> DXpeditions AFTER they had already worked 160 CW. Now, to my great
> disappointment, more and more DXpeditions are routinely using FT4 and/or FT8
> IN PLACE of 160 cw, even though they are perfectly capable of operating 160
> CW. Sadly, this trend seems to be getting more and more pervasive.
>
> Recently, 5V7RU has ONLY been on FT4 / FT8 on 80 and 160, with NO cw at all
> on those bands.
> This follows the previous country they were in where they operated 80 cw but
> no 160 cw.
>
> J28MD has operated 160 cw very briefly and typically avoids it, instead
> preferring FT8.
>
> I get it.... It is far easier to work stations on FT4 or FT8 than on
> cw. And using those unattended modes allow qsos to be made while the
> Dxpedition operators sleep. But that does not make me feel better about it.
>
> I am not interested in the digital modes, preferring the traditional
> modes of CW and SSB. I understand that others feel differently, which is
> fine. But it bothers me that DXpeditions are now avoiding CW on 80/160
> because they just don't want to bother.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, KQ2M
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