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Subject: FW: [TowerTalk] Masts
From: steve@gamecash.com (Steve Weisbrod)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 14:27:00 -0600
Steve I got your MARC program and it was a big help.  It says I need   
58,000 PSI mast 2" x 1/4" for my new tower setup. I was thinking of   
getting AL 7075-T6 but after reading the post below I'm rethinking. How   
do you keep the steel from rusting and what is the weight difference   
between say 1026 steel and the AL.  Thanks

73 Steve W8GAZ

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From:  'K7LXC@aol.com'
Sent:  Friday, April 11, 1997 2:51 PM
To:  steve; 'w9re@worldnet.att.net'; 'towertalk@contesting.com'
Subject:  Re: [TowerTalk] Masts

In a message dated 97-04-11 03:27:42 EDT, you write:

> Undoubtly steel and alloys such as chrome-molly are stronger, but they   
are
>  also more expensive, heavier and rust alot.
>
>  I have been using an aluminum mast consisting of 2-1/2" schedule 80
>  6061-T6511 with a 2" additional piece of 2" alumimun inside of it.   
 This
>  mast is supporting a full size 3 element 40 (15 sq ft.) 1' above the   
top
of
>  the tower and a 7 element 20 (15 sq ft) on a 52' boom 10' above the 40   
at
>  150' on Rohn 45.  It has been in the air since about 1977 and has not
>  failed.  The only failure that I have had with this setup is  2 times   
the
>  top (stock ) section of tower has bent and broke (top leg where it was
>  welded to top plate broke loose) because of high winds.  Section was   
guyed
>  closer to the which is 8' down.  After the tower failures I moved the   
guy
>  attachment point closer to the top.
>
>  And you thought you had a non controversial subject!!  Say anything   
and
>  somebody will disagree with you!  And yes, I do sell aluminum.
>
Hi, Mike --

     Got your attention, did I?  Nice to hear from you.

     The tensile strength of 6061-T6 is only 35,000 psi while 7075-T6 is   
over
70,000.  One thing you have in your favor is that Marion County is only a   
70
MPH wind speed zone - the lowest rating that the TIA-222 gives - so your   
wind
zone is not very demanding.

    I ran the numbers on the installation you described in my new MARC
program and the calculated bending moment on the mast is 42,074   
inch/pounds.
 The mast recommended for that bending moment (3 inch assumed) should   
have a
39,000 pound yield strength and 0.188 inch wall which sounds pretty
reasonable for the aluminum mast you described.

     Why has your installation lasted for 20 years?  The main reason is   
that
you are using a 2.5 inch ID (3 inch OD) mast.  With the insert in your   
mast,
it probably exceeds the 39K yield strength required.  If you had used a 2
inch OD mast, the recommended yield strength should have been 87,000 psi   
and
0.250 inch wall.  The other reason is that you don't live in a high wind
speed zone.   85 MPH winds on your system produce a bending moment of   
63,069
psi and the recommended yield strength mast should be 50,000 pounds with   
an
0.250 wall.

    Mike, you have very good tower and antenna construction skills and   
have
assembled a fabulous station; the fact that you  put an insert in your   
mast
demonstrates that you are careful and thorough.  The reason that I don't
recommend aluminum for masts is that 1) they don't have the tensile   
strength
for demanding installations and 2) aluminum is relatively soft and steel
mounting hardware (U-bolts, etc.) will gall the aluminum over time in   
many
cases.  In other words, the constant torque forces on the hardware over   
time
have a good chance of gouging the aluminum and causing problems.  Even   
steel
masts that are pinned with a bolt will gall and the hole will elongate   
over
time.  Also, most people don't put the insert in their mast and are left   
with
a low tensile strength mast.

     Continued good luck with your system and your contesting efforts.

73,  Steve   K7LXC

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