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Subject: [TowerTalk] [Towertalk] W1JR Yagis in Winter 98 ComQuart
From: w8ji.tom@MCIONE.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:11:12 +0000
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> Date:          Mon, 11 May 1998 15:27:15 -0700

> Tom Rauch wrote:

No, I didn't write this. The other Tom did...........
  
> > > > The lower the feed impedance, the greater the current in the driven
> > > > element,  which results in increased gain.  Below 10 Ohms, > > 
> > > > w8ji.tom@MCIONE.com

What I said was feedpoint resistance and current in the system  
often tells us absolutely nothing about efficiency. It's much  like 
measuring length to determine weight, or temperature to determine 
relative humidity.  

> let me drop you a bone, not on the same matter, but very close. 

I'll take losses for 500 bones please! (sorry, a joke about a TV 
game show)

> What is happening with Fresnel zone and antenna efficiency,
> if comparing antennas with different Q? All other parameters
> are constant.

Just so this isn't a trick question...

By Q, I assume you mean stored and returned energy in the 
antenna zone and/or nearfield (Fresnel) zone and not in components 
of the system.

By antenna efficiency, I assume you mean far field radiation 
efficiency, since that is what you and I probably want. (Some people 
like a sharp tuning hi-Q antenna with low resistance, even if it 
has more loss.) 

When you say all other parameters are constant, I assume you 
allow nearfield and antenna zone power loss to change.

If you mean what I think you mean, losses increase. Energy storage 
(Q) increases, and losses increase accordingly. The feedpoint 
resistance decreases from increased energy storage around the 
antenna while losses increase because of this increase in stored 
energy.

I can point out several articles where authors conclude, without a 
single measurement of anything that directly relates to efficiency, 
lower resistance due to increased energy storage around the antenna 
means higher system efficiency. One example is small resonant 
elevated radial systems, where authors conclude lower resistance at 
the terminals is always better. 

Strange concept, but pretty common since field strength measurements 
were banned (unless done on computer with a virtual antenna), and 
subjective data allowed as verification of efficiency changes (ie, 
PY7SOB worked a new record with this system, and was loud everywhere 
for one whole weekend). 

73, Tom W8JI
w8ji.tom@MCIONE.com

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