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[TowerTalk] C-19XR vs TH-6

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Subject: [TowerTalk] C-19XR vs TH-6
From: na1i@portone.com (BUBS)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:35:37 -0700
Pete,
I had a TH6 and then replaced it with a TH7 circa 1990, at 54' up the TH6
was a far better antenna then the TH7.  I was sorry  that I sold the
TH6.  Last Summer I replaced the TH7 with a C3E from Force 12, the C3 is
every bit as gud and in some cases better then the TH7. I gained the use
of 12&17meters from the force 12 C3, which of course was not possible
with the TH7. I also have used the C3E on 30 meters with good results.
The C3 is devoid of traps, a plus in my book, the C3 is half the weight
(33 lbs.) of the TH7 another plus. I nearly always work CW, , last year
all the DXpeditions that were around E3, E4, 3C0, etc. I've managed to
work using the C3E without the use of my Alphfa 86.  I'm only short 6
more on my mixed for DXCC and only Maarrttii's P5 on CW.  The only draw
back I find in the C3E is that the front to back rejections is poor
compared to the TH6/7. However, the C3E is a boon to those who ferment on
weekends engaged in a contest. The turning of the antenna becomes minimal
since signal can be adequately worked  from behind as well as in front.
In addition, on windy days the swr fluctuated somewhat 1:1-1:1.4 on 15
meters only. I had considered the skyhawk antenna but, at the time of
purchase interest, I could not get adequate pricing or literature spec.
info. When I finally got something from Bencher, the price for me $$$ was
very prohibitive and caused a severe nose-bleed due to the high cost
quote.  I did acquire the antenna comparison tome as penned by Steve &
Ward and perused it prior to my 1-800-antenna dealer search. Lots of
comments are also found regarding the C31XR, some of the hams that
frequent the same cw spots as I with the C31XR seem to do very well. At
any rate, hope your quest for info regarding C31, C19,  etc. result in an
antenna that you will enjoy. I am happy with the change from the TH7 and
would not consider taking a step back.

'73,

Al

Peter Larsen wrote:

> Hi All:
> As every one is having fun with the C-3 vs T-6 debate,
> here is a question to add to the pot.
>
> I have a TH-6 at 72 feet. I am thinking of replacing it
> with a C-19XR.
> How would these two antennas match up?
>
> >From Force 12's web page:
>
>        C3             C19           C31
> 20     4.6     (-.6)  5.2    (+.8)  6
> 15     4.8     (-.2)  5.0    (+1.3) 6.3
> 10     4.4     (-1.5) 5.9    (+1.5) 7.4
>
> >From Steve and Ward's measurements (plus some "funny math")
> The math is mine so flame me not the other gents.
>
>        C3         C19         C31      TH-7
> 20     3.3    (3.9 to 4.1)    4.9      3.0
> 15     4.3    (4.5 to 3.7)    5.0      3.5
> 10     2.7    (4.3 to 4.5)    6.0      2.9
>
> It seems to me that the C-19 would be a good substitute
> for the TH-6
> The C-19 wasn't tested but I made the assumption that F-12
> tested all their antennas the same, and that the gain figures
> would hold up under the tri-band report's protocol.
> The other assumption I made was that the TH-6 would be quite
> close to the TH-7.
>
> So am I all wet?
>
> --
> 73 es have fun
> Peter
> VE6YC  DO21wc
> "Where Are We Going And Why Am I In This Hand Basket?"
>
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