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Subject: [TowerTalk] ICE devices for Beverages
From: rmurad@vento.com.br (Roger)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 17:43:56 -0300
Hi, Frank

Thanks a lot for your comments. They're very useful. Yes, I've already 
E-Mailed Jay some days ago. Unfortunately he is traveling on business. He 
does not have the data sheets at hand and his access to Internet is almost 
unavailable. So, Sharon (at Array Solutions) is doing her best to help me. 
She has tried to contact ICE several times without success. She is going to 
try again next week.

Meanwhile I posted the questions here in the hope somebody may have the 
info I need so I can decide quickly. I am in a hurry because I have a 
friend right now in USA in a business trip and I'd like him to buy the 
devices and bring them to me in hands. If I delay, he may come back. I must 
get the info before that so I can decide among available models.

I'll keep an eye here, waiting for the answers. Thanks again and 73!
Roger - PY1OL

At 13:50 05/08/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Roger,
>
>ICE is still in business but unless u r a dealer etc. they are very 
>difficult to get thru to by phone or email.  I get all my products for 
>multi rig service from a friend of mine Jay Terleski, wx0b, he owns Array 
>Solutions..  If u want to know about ICE products give him a call.   He 
>does custom systems all the time and I am certain he will be happy to 
>answer ur questions.  If he doesn't know the answer, he'll definitely find 
>out!  Tell him Frank Norton told you to call so he knows how u got these 
>phone numbers (no I don't get any commision or discounts):
>
>Phone:  972-203-2008 (will also forward to his cell phone if available, or 
>leave a voice mail he will call back very quickly.
>
>EMail:  <mailto:wx0b@arraysolutions.com>  (if u email today, I'll bet 
>he'll answer today.)
>
>I hope this is helpful.
>
>73 de Frank KB8XU
>
>At 01:32 PM 8/5/2001 -0300, you wrote:
>
>>Hi TowerTalkians,
>>
>>I am building a Beverage. I visited http://personal.isla.net/ice/ and I 
>>read the specifications of the devices that ICE offers. I could not 
>>decide between ICE Models 180A, 181A and 184A. I already understood the 
>>basic differences but I still have some questions. I sent several E-Mails 
>>to ICE but never got an answer. So I am posting here some Questions. 
>>Perhaps some of you can give an insight.
>>TIA
>>73 Roger - PY1OL
>>----------------------------------------------
>>
>>Notes
>>-----
>>#1: I read that Model 180A accepts both 50 and 75 Ohms feedlines. I could 
>>not find this information about Model 181A.
>>#2: From what I read, Model 181A allows one to apply a DC voltage into 
>>the Beverage for remote switching. This part is not clearly explained in 
>>the texts so I could not fully understand this feature. I want to 
>>evaluate this feature and decide whether I should buy 180A or 181A. I can 
>>think of something to change the main lobe of the antenna by using 
>>relays, but I can't see how a single 181A takes part in such a system.
>>#3: Model 184A is a Model 180A (which is a DC blocking unit) plus a 
>>filter plus a preamp. So, 184A is clearly more useful than both 180A and 
>>181A, BUT it is DC blocking!
>>
>>Questions
>>---------
>>#1: Does Model 181A (DC passive unit) accept both 50 and 75 Ohms 
>>feedlines too?
>>
>>#2: Could anybody suggest a practical example, mentioning wires, devices 
>>and components, where advantage is taken from the fact that 181A is DC 
>>passive?
>>
>>#3: Supposing that I may ever need the DC passive feature, I shall not 
>>buy Model 184A. Does ICE offers another version of 184A which is not DC 
>>blocking?
>>
>>#4: It is strange that ICE does not reply to E-Mails. Is ICE out of business?
>>-----------------------------000OOO000-----------------------------------


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