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Subject: [Towertalk] Phillystran Grips
From: k1my@msn.com (k1my)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:09:07 -0700
correct url is:

http://www.burghardt-amateur.com/Burghardt/Phillystran/phillystran.html

You were missing a "d" in the second Burghardt

73, Bruce K1MY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob & Traudel Eslaire" <W9UI@sprintmail.com>
To: "Rick Bullon" <kc5ajx@hotmail.com>; <n2mg@eham.net>;
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Towertalk] Phillystran Grips


> According to the Phillystran instruction sheet, the comment below on the
use of the tie wrap is
> incorrect.  The tie wrap is used around the grip at the rod end - "Secure
black tie wrap around the
> grip at the rod ends to secure ends.  Tie wrap should be positioned to
within one (1) inch of the
> rod ends of short leg".  You can see this at
> www.burghardt-amateur.com/Burghart/Phillystran/phillystran.html or on the
sheet supplied with the
> cable and wraps.
>
> I am not sure where I got it (instruction sheet from Texas Towers?), but I
fill the black cable end
> caps with caulk and install.
>
> A further note, the thimbles used are "oversized".  For example, 1/2"
thimbles are used with 6700
> and 11,000 lb cable.
>
> The instructions also warn against wrapping only one leg completely.
Rather, you need to start the
> wrap with the short end and very soon in the process start wrapping the
long end.  This back and
> forth continues to the end.  I have found that using a fixed connection
point for the thimble and
> the grip is essential, as has been discussed.  Also, I wrap with the right
hand and tension with the
> left for one end and then alternate hands for the other end.  The wrapping
of the long end can be a
> real pain if you wrap as if it were EHS.  I find that when wrapping the
long end that I need to pull
> it further from the cable than I do with EHS.  The instruction sheet also
says you can separate some
> of the strands, and perhaps this would make the job simpler.  I have never
tried that, since my way
> works if sufficient attention is paid.  If done correctly, the ends lay
over very nicely.
>
> Bob, W9UI.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Bullon
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:11 PM
> To: n2mg@eham.net; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Phillystran Grips
>
> Hello Mike
> When I bought my Philly guys and grips from Texas Towers Gerald showed me
> how to install them, (Texas Towers is only about an hour drive from my
QTH).
> You start by laying the Philly in one side of the grip all the way down
then
> start the other side a few turns so that the grip has a hold on the
Philly.
> At this point put some tension on the Philly ( I used a clevis bolt around
> the tower rung and though the the thimble on the big grip then stretched
it
> to the ground and stood on the philly). Continue to wrap the free leg
around
> the the grip and when you get to the end instead of using a screwdriver to
> lock the last wrap use a pair of pliers to get it to lock in. It will look
> just like the finish grip on the ehs nice and tight. The trick is to keep
> the Philly taunt while you are wrapping the grip on.
> The ty wraps are to hold the little black end caps on the ends of the
> Philly.
>
> 73
> Rick
> KC5AJX
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [Towertalk] Phillystran Grips
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
>
> I have several grips to install on (the newer style)
> 6700# Phillystran. I have no instructions for these
> grips, per se, (I've asked TexasTowers for them -
> didn't realize that I was not sent them) but do have
> them for the "normal" grips for EHS.  I have installed
> several dozen of the EHS grips on 1/4" cable with
> little difficulty.  The final twist of the grip yields
> a confidence-inspiring "snap" when done correctly.
>
> With the Philly grips, however, I get no such snap. I
> am following PLP's sheet that instructs one to split
> the end of the grips and weave them back and forth
> somewhat (rather than stitching one side fully then
> the other). However, the tips of the grip tend to
> bunch up since (it seems to me that) the jacket on the
> Philly flows a bit.  This leaves the end of the grip
> quite easy to unwind  - WAY more easily than the grips
> on EHS (which require a screwdriver or other suitable
> tool to get them started to unwind).
>
> TT sent me tiewraps as well - never used any on EHS
> grips so not sure what they are for...I hope these are
> not expected to hold the end of the grips together...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
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