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Subject: [TowerTalk] re tower permits
From: howk2@hotmail.com (Howard Klein)
Date: Sun Mar 30 17:26:39 2003
At one of my previous QTH's known for its very restrictive zoning laws I 
ended up in the New York State Supreme court where I lost my bid for a tower 
permit. A short time later I elmered one of the town board members to his 
ham license and lo and behold I got the permit. When I moved to a new 
community with restrictions in Florida I ran for and was elected to the 
community board. Got the antenna again. There ARE ways around restrictions. 
I must admit all this becomes tiring. My current QTH is in a rural community 
that has no tower restrictions.
Howard..K2HK

----Original Message Follows---- From: dan bookwalter n8dcj@yahoo.com 
Reply-To: N8DCJ@yahoo.com To: kce kce@chartermi.net,  Subject: Re: 
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
[TowerTalk] re tower permits Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:37:32 -0800 (PST)
"The thing that really grinds me about this is I try to do it the right way 
and then take a drive around the city and find CBers and other hams who just 
said "ta hell with the law" and just stick up the towers without a permit."
when i first was licensed in 1978 my dad had a friend who was a ham and on 
city council who told me NOT to try for a permit and put the darn thing 
up....
the reason....
he tried to go about it the correct way and after 2 years waiting for a 
judgement, either way ,he couldnt get anyone to move on it.. so, he ran for 
and was elected to city council and pushed his tower permit through...
so i took his advice...
Dan N8DCJ
--- kce kce@chartermi.net wrote:  We used to have a ham on the city council 
here and  while in office he made  sure the city never had a tower law for 
ham  operators. About 10 years ago I  went to apply for a permit and found 
out the city  (and catv co.) had  rewritten the law to read towers shall not 
be so  tall as to fall out of the  property lines in event of failure. In 
other words  that means about 30 ft  tall max counting antenna. The building 
official at  the time found a gray  area loophole. The site where I was 
erecting the  tower also had my small  remote office in it. The law had a 
clause that it  did not apply to any  commercial use towers. So bingo I was 
issued a  permit for a tower with a max  height of 135 feet. The tower sits 
12 feet from the  property line. I was  thinking I would really like to 
relocate the tower  to the center of the  backyard, So talking to the new 
building official I  find out no more  commercial use loophole, But was told 
If I paid $475  for a variance I was  sure to get the permit. I told him to 
stuff it and I  would keep the tower  located where it was. The thing that 
really grinds  me about this is I try to  do it the right way and then take 
a drive around the  city and find CBers and  other hams who just said "ta 
hell with the law" and  just stick up the towers  without a permit. I then 
find out that the city  seldom ever takes the  offenders to court. I guess 
the laws are really  written for other people.  ken w8ob



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