To: | "Richard Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>, "Col" <col@v21mail.co.uk>, <towertalk@contesting.com> |
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Subject: | RE: [TowerTalk] 1/8 wave spaced 80m verticals |
From: | Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net> |
Date: | Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:20:12 -0700 |
List-post: | <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com> |
At 08:43 AM 9/10/2003 -0700, Richard Karlquist wrote:
> Can anyone help me with the construction of a lewallen phasing > network for 2 > 1/8 wave spaced 80m verticals or sort out my christman feed. I > have used 2 x > mfj1792 top loaded verticals. I have 40 radials 1/8 wave long on each > antenna. I have tried the christman feed to these antennas but i > suspect the > phasing is not quite right as front to back is only about 15db. I used the > I heartily agree.... there are so many "unknowns" in a real system that you can go batty trying to model them all and account for them. I figure you use the model to bound the problem (about what range of values will you need), and then go and do the experiment for real. ("Analysis paralysis" is a very real danger with phased arrays.. why go out and stand in the hot sun trying to figure things out when you can sit in the cool airconditioning in front of your computer...) The adjustable phasing network is simply an adjustable inductor and adjustable capacitor in an "L" network. If you don't have these components, you can use an ensemble of known fixed inductors and capacitors by cut and try. Excellent point... saves having to fool with current probes. High Z scope probe beats the current probe any day. You want the feed voltages equal in magnitude and 135 degrees out of phase. You can measure each voltage vs ground with an RF voltmeter and adjust them to be equal magnitude. Then connect the RF voltmeter *across* the feed voltages and adjust for a voltage 1.85 times as much as the individual voltages. Iterate back and forth between magnitude and phase until both are correct. This "3 voltmeter method" is described in more detail at http://www.n6rk.com/driving_the_7_hex.pdf pages 4 and 5. I made my own RF voltmeter with a Schottky diode, bypass capacitor and pocket voltmeter. I put about 100 mW into the antenna for these tests. The three voltmeter method can even be extended to measure mutual Z in a multiport network, much like a network analyzer (it becomes the 6 or 3*Nports voltmeter technique....), but the math gets pretty hairy, and the calibration even more so. (For those technically inclined, look up "6-port network measurement"... there's a bunch of stuff from NIST on the web... essentially, with a suitable set of scalar measurements (i.e. RF voltage) and appropriate cal standards, you can measure the complete characteristics of an arbitrary 2 port network) Jim W6RMK _______________________________________________ See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA. _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk |
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