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RE: [TowerTalk] Re: 20M Yagi Interaction with nearby objects

To: Ve6wz_Steve <ve6wz@shaw.ca>, corneliuspaul@gmx.net
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Re: 20M Yagi Interaction with nearby objects
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:59:50 -0400
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At 03:25 PM 10/20/03 -0600, Ve6wz_Steve wrote:
I think sometimes we go "overboard" with this interaction issue.

Using any modeling program, start with a dipole and then introduce
another wire and TRY to make a pattern.

Only when the second wire is close to resonance, and at the right
spacing are the currents correct to develop a pattern.  This new wire
needs to be accurate within inches in length to make a pattern. After
all, this is why it can be so difficult and time consuming to adjust a
Yagi model (or in the real world on a tower) for optimum F/B.  That
reflector (or director) has to be "just right" or it won't do a thing.

This certainly isn't my real-world experience. A loaded 40-meter yagi element is resonant who-knows-where on its third harmonic (probably not VERY close to the 15-meter ham band), and yet instances of interaction with 15-meter yagis are more common than not. My 40-meter yagi was a dog until I replaced the top (grounded) guys on my tower with Phillystran, at which point both pattern and gain improved noticeably. The conventional wisdom about guy interaction was that you needed to avoid resonant lengths, but there is growing empirical evidence that this isn't true. Serendipitously, my tower acts as a fairly effective reflector for my 80-meter dipole array, even though it is nowhere near a resonant length that you can discern from measurement or modeling. If it is removed from the array, pattern and gain suffer.



73, Pete N4ZR The World HF Contest Station Database was updated October 3. 2440 stations are listed -- 104 stations were added or updated. Are you current? www.pvrc.org/wcsd/wcsdsearch.htm



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