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Re: RE: [TowerTalk] Using riding mower to run radials (2nd Try)

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Subject: Re: RE: [TowerTalk] Using riding mower to run radials (2nd Try)
From: <mahlonhaunschild@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:54:46 -0400
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I can say for certain that the Kubota BX-series machines only have lift, not 
downforce (since I own one).  I wish it had downforce too.

There is a tillage implement called a subsoiler that closely resembles a 
cut-down version of a cable knife.  I'm going to buy one & modify it with a 
tube along the back of the blade to knife in lots of things, besides radial 
wires.  There's something similar called a middle buster that has a "shoe" 
mounted on the bottom of the blade that plows a single furrow with the dirt on 
either side of the furrow.  Useful for shallow trenching.

Both of these implements have their "business ends" designed to pull down into 
the soil so that downforce from the 3 point hitch is not required.

Garden tractors don't have much capability for any of this, unless the machine 
in question has a sleeve hitch.  Then you can raise/lower stuff from the seat.

regards,

Mahlon - K4OQ
> 
> From: "Dubovsky, George" <George.Dubovsky@andrew.com>
> Date: 2004/04/12 Mon PM 02:11:17 EDT
> To: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>, 
>       "Wendell Wyly - W5FL" <wendell@wyly.org>,  <N8DCJ@YAHOO.COM>, 
>       <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Using riding mower to run radials (2nd Try)
> 
> Nope, I think Wendell has it right - three-point hitches usually don't have 
> the ability to impart down force. The implements do it, usually by sheer mass 
> or, in the case of plows, by down-vector forces imparted by the shape of the 
> blade(s). If you have some accessory implement, like a 
> three-point-hitch-mounted backhoe, that's a whole 'nother story...
> 
> geo - n4ua
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Lux [mailto:jimlux@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:04 PM
> > To: Wendell Wyly - W5FL; N8DCJ@YAHOO.COM; towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Using riding mower to run radials (2nd Try)
> > 
> > 
> > At 12:05 PM 4/12/2004 -0500, Wendell Wyly - W5FL wrote:
> > >Unfortunately, almost ALL 3 point hitches DO NOT apply any downward
> > >pressure - only upward pressure.  This is true on nearly all 
> > tractors.
> > >
> > >-----
> > 
> > On riding mowers perhaps, but on the run of the mill Ford and Kubota 
> > tractors I've used, you can exert substantial downforce. You 
> > need some 
> > downforce, or how are you going to do plowing and grading 
> > type operations. 
> > I've managed to lift the back wheels off the ground with a 
> > Gannon on the 
> > hitch..  The three point hitches I've used also have the 
> > ability to move 
> > the two top points relative to each other, which can be used to, for 
> > example, set the blade angle.  Soemtimes it's hydraulic, 
> > sometimes, it's a 
> > threaded rod/rigid turnbuckle kind of arrangement.
> > 
> > Jim, W6RMK
> > 
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