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Re: [TowerTalk] 160m 8-circle BSEF array

To: "RICHARD BOYD" <ke3q@msn.com>, <TowerTalk@contesting.com>,"SJ W3TX" <superberthaguy@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160m 8-circle BSEF array
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:06:10 -0400
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You might want to ask K9DX and K4JA about that.  I used the K4JA 9-circle, 
and it did a darned good imitation of a 2-3 element yagi.  Compared to a 
4-square, it was night and day.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 09:02 AM 4/14/2005, RICHARD BOYD wrote:

>Or, pare it back further to a standard four-square.  If land is not a 
>limiting factor, you can always do a pair of four-squares to enhance the 
>signal incrementally in the four additional sub-directions.  Hardly anyone 
>would think it would be a good bang for the buck, I don't think, versus a 
>single four-square.
>
>73 - Rich, KE3Q
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: SJ W3TX<mailto:superberthaguy@adelphia.net>
>   To: TowerTalk@contesting.com<mailto:TowerTalk@contesting.com>
>   Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:15 PM
>   Subject: [TowerTalk] 160m 8-circle BSEF array
>
>
>   I was evaluating the simplicity of the feed system for the 8-circle tx/rx
>   array (4 active elements per steered direction) compared to the 9-circle
>   array (9 active elements per steered direction)  in the 4th edition of
>   ON4UN's book Low Band DXing.
>
>   My thought process is this.  The 8-circle array uses a simplified
>   broadside/endfire feed to only four (4) of the eight (8) 
> elements...that is,
>   four of the elements are left un-fed no matter which direction the array is
>   steered. I would anticipate that the four unfed elements would impair the
>   gain and FB pattern if left floating.  Would they impair the pattern if 
> they
>   were unfed but grounded??
>
>   The difference in gain and FB is negligible between the 8-circle and the
>   9-circle.  But the 9-circles feed system is light years more 
> complicated and
>   perhaps not worth the additional complexity comapred to a simple BSEF
>   network??
>
>   73, Scott W3TX
>
>
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