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From: Bob Lombardi <boblombardi@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:02:53 -0400
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:04:20 -0400
>From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160m 8-circle BSEF array
>To: "SJ W3TX" <superberthaguy@adelphia.net>,
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>The nine-circle also has additional LOSS, so it very likely
>has less gain when matching and switching losses are
>included. IMO the nine-circle is an example of how a system
>evolves when losses are not included and complexity is not
>an issue. The G5RV syndrome of the nine element is worth
>about +5dB, however.
>
>What is the G5RV syndrome? On 80 meters I blind tested a
>G5RV at 100ft against a dipole at 100 ft. Both antennas in
>the clear.
>
>1.) When I would call the dipole the G5RV, and the G5RV the
>dipole, the ACTUAL G5RV would always win in signal reports.
>2.) When I would call each by the correct name, the dipole
>would win.
>3.) When I would say antenna one and antenna two, they would
>randomly tie.

I **love** this experiment!

Simple, direct, revealing... what more could you ask for?!


>My suggestion would be to install the nine square layout,
>and only use the eight vertical feed that excites four
>elements. Then you could say it is a nine circle antenna,
>and have the same G5RV syndrome along with the better eight
>circle performance and phasing system ease.
>
>73 Tom
>

73,
Bob
W4ATM


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