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Re: [TowerTalk] RFI and a new antenna

To: Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <w2irt@comcast.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RFI and a new antenna
From: "J. Hector Garcia XE2K" <hector@telecom1.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:39:24 PST
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Peter:

i check the page and the ones that comes with your new antenna is just a center 
insulator, i think you need to add your old balun to reduce  your RFI,  is you 
want to try  before make a coaxial choke balun,

i don't find in any part of the seller page the word balun .  

good luck , merry Xmas and the best in 2006  

XE2K

On 24 Dec 2005 19:18 PST you wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> This afternoon my tower guru replaced an 80m monoband dipole with a 
> TV Evans 3-band dipole for 40/80/160 at my house, and it looks like 
> I've just opened a can of RFI-flavored worms.
> 
> The old dipole was a full-sized homebrew antenna, fed through a W2DU 
> current balun via about 100 feet of RG-213. It worked "OK" on 80 
> (nothing to write home about). Although I could achieve a match 
> through a tuner on 40 and 160, it was worse than useless on those 
> bands, of course. With the tuner, I could get it to work OK on 80 CW.
> 
> So, this came down and the new Evans dipole went up. From a common 
> centre insulator (too small to be a voltage balun or current balun), 
> there are two wires off each side -- one is a full-sized dipole for 
> 80m and the other is a full-size 40, then a resonator and an extra 
> bit of wire for 160. This is fed with the same coax that the old 
> monoband dipole was fed with.
> 
> Right now it's resonant in the middle of the SSB DX window on 80 but 
> not on 80 CW (obviously), 160 or 40 (both need to be pruned somewhat 
> for the latter two bands). I keyed up on 40 CW (with a flat SWR) and 
> noticed massive key clicks coming through my computer speakers and 
> the lamps inside my Ten-Tec 238 tuner were lighting 3 times their 
> normal brightness on key-down. Uh Oh.
> 
> Looks like a matter of hours before the neighbours break out the 
> pitchforks and torches, so I've gotta get to the bottom of this and fast.
> 
> Last time I ran into something like this was also on 40 at my old 
> QTH, with my old Alpha-Delta DX-EE. I never could run it on 40 
> without an MFJ "artificial ground" in my old apartment building, and 
> even then, it was of limited use. Seems to me, that 40 is a problem 
> band for RFI for me. Now, there is no current balun on the new 
> antenna (not enough coax to make a coax balun either), but I'm not 
> sure if I'm dealing with radiation off my feedline or what. The 
> feedpoint of the antenna is at the back of the house (near the shack, 
> about 25' away horizontally and up 70') and the wires run across the 
> back and side yards to trees.
> 
> There's a 3/4" braid from the shack going to a ground rod right 
> outside (relatively short run), and connected or not, it makes 
> absolutely no difference whatsoever  - as has always been my 
> experience with grounding, incidentally.
> 
> Unfortunately I can't climb (no equipment plus I've never done it in 
> my life before -- and I'm not in the kind of physical condition which 
> would allow it, either), so I really don't know what I can do short 
> of going QRT below 30m permanently -- and that's really not an option 
> I want to think of. If there's anybody in northern NJ who may be able 
> to help me engineer a better solution than I have going here, I'd do 
> just about anything to make this happen.
> 
> 
> 
> - Peter
> 
> W2IRT 
> 
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