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Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions

To: jeremy-ca <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
From: "Kent Winrich" <kwinrich@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:19:07 -0400
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Jermey,

It is YOU that is off base here.  YOU made the accusation, and an unfounded
one at that.  No one that I know of has ever felt ripped off by WX0B.  Just
to let you know, I have not purchased anyu WX0B products, though I have had
the honor of chatting with Jay.

If you dont want to be called an idiot, make sure you know what you are
talking about before you accuse someone of ripping people off.

Kent, K9EZ
Ft Bragg, NC


On 5/13/07, jeremy-ca <km1h@jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>
> I dont care to be called an idiot and I demand an apology. Moderator
> please
> take note.
>
> My comment was directed at what appeared to be the same relay as used by
> Ameritron and if it was the same then $45 is a rip off. However several
> prior posters were talking about 2 different relays and then you cleared
> up
> the confusion. Our posts crossed at the same time.
>
> BTW, remind me to not waste any money on your products as you apparently
> dont know how conduct yourself in front of potential customers.
>
> Ive worked in RF R&D most of my life so Im fully cognizant on how to
> design
> and test a switching system for something as basic as HF. A network
> analyzer
> takes most of the guesswork out of what some view as hard work.
>
> When KQ2M operated my station 1987-95, I designed and built all of the
> elaborate stack switching and elevation steering for a 4 stack of yagis on
> 20, 15 & 10 as well as the pattern switching for 160 & 80 antennas.  Specs
> were so tight that amp tuning never changed even when several relays and
> networks were in the signal path. Performance was obvious in the contest
> scores.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
> 160M thru 10gHz
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Terleski" <jayt@arraysolutions.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:12 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
>
>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > ONE more time
> > Look guys, LETS PUT THIS RELAY STUFF TO REST.
> >
> > Those relays on my website are 10KW CW high voltage relays, and they are
> > $45.00 these are NOT the 5 KW CW RatPak replacement relays which we sell
> > for
> > $16.00 each, if I have to sell one.  The RatPak is warranted for life,
> > except for lightning damage, which rarely happens with it since it has
> > protection and is in a full metal box.
> >
> > To the idiot that said I am ripping hams off, your wrong, you have no
> idea
> > how much free advice I give out. Try finding a relay like this in the
> > general purpose relay section of mouser.com. Then modify it to look work
> > like this and still you won't have the performance!
> >
> > Regards, to the group
> >
> > Jay, WX0B
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:47:29 -0400
> > From: "Tom McAlee" <tom@klient.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
> > useintheir coax switchs?
> > To: <towertalk@contesting.com>, "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
> > Message-ID: <058401c79586$c738e760$6a93a8c0@laptop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> >> I don't think $45 is the actual each price Jay sells them for.
> >
> > Yes, it is.  I've bought several.  And, you can find them on his pricing
> /
> > ordering page at $45 each in quantities of 1 to 9.
> >
> > http://www.arraysolutions.com/pricelist.htm - search for the text "10kw
> rf
> > relays"
> >
> > 73,
> > Tom, NI1N
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
> > To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; "Tom McAlee" <tom@klient.com>;
> > "W7CE"
> > <w7ce@curtiss.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
> > useintheir coax switchs?
> >
> >
> >> Comments interspersed..
> >>
> >> At 06:27 PM 5/12/2007, jeremy-ca wrote:
> >>
> >>>$45 is obviously a rip off for that relay. Since Ameritron makes a big
> >>>deal
> >>>about selling any individual part Id start there to get a more
> realistic
> >>>resale price.
> >>
> >> I don't think $45 is the actual each price Jay sells them
> >> for.  However, it could well be a realistic cost for him to put one
> >> relay in a box and ship it.  Might be that 3 relays would also cost
> >> $45.  The realities of "spare parts sales" has been beaten to death
> >> on the forum.  It's an expensive service to provide for the seller,
> >> although some mfrs do "subsidize" it (but eventually, you pay, in the
> >> form of original purchase price).  Also, many mfrs only sell
> >> replacement parts if you own the original product (especially those
> >> that are subsidizing the cost stocking, shipping, etc. onesie-twosie
> >> parts orders).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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