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Re: [TowerTalk] Force 12's Falcon J-6

To: Alain Michel <opalockamishabob@yahoo.com>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Force 12's Falcon J-6
From: Pat Barthelow <aa6eg@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:34:13 -0800
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Hello Alain,

Welcome to the hobby.   Lots of ways to have fun.  Whether you like a 
particular antenna or not,  depends on what pursuits you take up in your quest 
for fun and satisfaction in the hobby.  Your G5RV can play just fine forever, 
depending on whether you are looking for local or regional stateside contacts, 
or looking for long range, DX contacts.  The two pursuits favor quite different 
antennas.  
This reflector is a very good one, for answers to questions like yours
of how or whether to mount masts or towers or other antenna supports to
buildings.  
(or any other antenna structure planning question.)

80 mph is serious wind, and  to mount a 30 ft mast
(actually, I hope you mean tower, such as Rohn 25, as opposed to a
mast) in 80 mph is non trivial, and certainly far beyond a couple of
u-bolts through the eaves;  even a purpose built wall bracket needs
substantial structural backing (engineering) before screwing it to a
side wall of a house.  So, to help you, many wizards, are accessible
here on Tower talk. You just have to narrow down your goals, as you
begin your adventure in ham radio, to ask the right questions.


If  budgets, or space limit your options, and you are after DX, height is what 
you want to invest in, if you have horizontal antennas.  Try to get more than 
1/2 wavelength, preferably 1 wavelength, which for 20 meters is around 60 ft.
If you had and compared two rotatable dipoles, one at 30ft, and one at 60 ft, 
and you were listening for European Stations from California around sunset, or 
in the morning, there would be a (probably) a profound difference in what you 
hear.   Once up at 50-60 ft or so,  even simple wire antennas work DX very well.

In your case, being discreet, points possibly to a near-ground mounted 
vertical, which finds the long range contacts much more easily, and through a 
totally different mechanism than horizontal antennas.

Welcome, and enjoy....

All the Best, 73,
Pat Barthelow     aa6eg@hotmail.com
http://www.jamesburgdish.org
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Jamesburg Earth Station  Moon Bounce Team




> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:46:12 -0800
> From: opalockamishabob@yahoo.com
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Force 12's Falcon J-6
> 
> Hello All,
>    
>   I'm new to ham radio. I'm very interested in hearing more about this 
> rotatable dipole. Currently, I've got a 204' G5RV "flat top" up about 35' and 
> am pleased with it's performance.
>    
>   I was wondering if anyone on this list [or knows anyone who has one] can 
> give me some reviews on how well it performs; EHAM currently has zero. 
> Current plans are being made to place it on a 20'-30' mast and attach same to 
> the eave on the east side of the house. A small tv antenna rotator will take 
> care of that chore.
>    
>   What is the best way to attach a 2" mast to the eave? We've lived here for 
> over 10 years and the winds will gust to 80 MPH. How should I [or should I?] 
> guy the top 10' of the mast?
>    
>   My wife and I have over three acres of property, but we are in a CC&R area. 
> Most neighbors don't look up, but there are one or two who might blow the 
> whistle if they even catch a glimpse of anything out of the ordinary. 
>    
>   The east side of the house is about 200' from the street, but any antenna 
> up higher than a 25' avocado tree is flirting with danger. I understand that 
> the Falcon can be painted; this is great news and may be necessary, in my 
> case.
>    
>   Any help, suggestions or recommendations will be most gratefully received. 
>    
>   Many thanks for taking the time to respond!
>    
>   Alan...KI6HPO
> 
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