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From: "Steve Davis" <davisrf@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:33:40 -0400
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Hi Hugh,

"CINTA"  CNT 400 is a Times Microwave LMR 400 knock off. Virtually the same, 
but made in China under the auspice of Andrew Corp.  Andrew, for the most 
part, has been synonymous with good to high quality and a leader in 
broadcast associated materiel.   Others (Harbour, Commscope) have done LMR 
knock-offs but having been in the wire/cable/RF connector and related 
commercial biz for years, I have seen the LMR name still highly prevail. 
More importantly, I have refrained from selling CINTA , although less 
expensive vs. LMR, because even before the quality issues of various China 
products became even more greatly  illustrated over the last year, I have 
input as to the varying QC of this CINTA product....thus I will not sell it. 
However, if you are using at HF, and if you have a supplier who would accept 
your test results, or give you a no-fee return if n/acceptable (even using 
an MFJ type analyzer), you stand a reasonable chance at finding at HF that 
your cable will perform electrically well (CINTA 400 will have same 
attenuation and electrical characteristics, within very small tolerance, if 
any,  of LMR 400, when the dielectric was "brewed and extruded properly". 
Also, look closely at the specs of either LMR400 or Cinta vs. the length you 
need vs.  the actual attenuation and then compare to a good RG-213 vs. the 
cost comparison and see if you really need
the possibly slight attenuation advantage (to each his own of course, and to 
each budget vs. $/dB non-attenuated).   Paying extra for a low loss cable 
such as this, for HF, is often this sort of close comparison.
  LMR 400 specs below 30 MHz may be on their graph, or contact me direct and 
give me a couple freq's, or go to TimesMicrowave.com ,  choose the LMR 
product category, or better yet, try their on-line calculator for 
attenuation, a great tool, and you can pick many RG cables they make, to see 
attenuation comparisons (varied by exact freq and exact length), then come 
to DAVIS RF and we will get you an equivalent cable (or we can provide the 
more expensive Times or Belden) that will perform very close, or same, as 
Times or Belden).... of course at highly competitive pricing.
If I can help further, just let me know.
     73,
Steve Davis, K1PEK

DAVIS RF Co.

Commercial Wire, Cable, RF Connectors and Custom/Specialty Cable Design 
Engineering

sdavis@DavisRF.com

978-369-1738



Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:57 -0000
From: "Hugh Anthony Quinn" <gi0wlw@btinternet.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Andrew CNT400.
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Is this coax suitable for use at HF?
The spec sheets on the web quote loss figures for 30mhz and above.I can get 
some here in Ireland at a good prrice,but only if it is suitable for HF.

Has anyone any experience of using it?

Hugh  GI0WLW


Tel:  978-369-1738     Fax:  978-369-3484
NOTE: Please include all past email history with all followup emails until 
your order or inquiry is complete. Thank you.

Steve Davis, Jeff Stimson and the staff of the

        DAVIS/ORION Group of Companies
Where Customer Satisfaction is our Premier Goal

~ Davis RF Co., Div. of Orion Wire Co.,Inc.
Distribution to numerous industries,  Andrew
Heliax; Times Microwave LMR; RFS Celwave and others.
Cable design engineering. RF Peripherals.
www.davisRF.com
Tel: 1-800-328-4773 (1-800-DAVIS RF) Tech'l: 1-978-369-
1738, Fax: 1-978-369-3484

~ DAVIS/ORION Marine Wire and Cable Co., Distribution and Design: UL/USCG 
Marine Stds.  Tel: 877-242-2253  Fax: 603-787-2221 (Direct tel to Steve 
Davis: 978-369-1738 or Fax: 978-369-3484)

~Orion Wire Co., Inc., Design Engineers of Specialty/Custom Cable
Tel: 1-800-328-4773, 1-603-787-2200 Fax 1-603-787-2221,
email: j_stimson@davis-orionwiregroup.com
www.davisRF.com


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> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:57 -0000
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> Is this coax suitable for use at HF?
> The spec sheets on the web quote loss figures for 30mhz and above.I can 
> get some here in Ireland at a good prrice,but only if it is suitable for 
> HF.
>
> Has anyone any experience of using it?
>
> Hugh  GI0WLW
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> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:19:22 -0400
> From: Bill N1eY <whobulk3@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Johnson Matchbox
> To: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> Well,  aren't there two versions of the Johnson Matchbox?  One was lower
> power and the other was QRO.
>
> Jim Brown wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:32:43 -0700, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ran 500 watts with the SB-200 and it didn't even get warm.
>>>
>>
>> Dissipation depends on the voltage and current in individual
>> components, which in turn depends on the exact values of complex
>> impedances being transformed, the frequency, and, of course, the
>> power level. A capacitor that runs cool under one set of conditions
>> may go up in smoke under a different set.
>>
>> Not to worry -- excessive dissipation is usually signalled by a
>> special alarm that seasoned hams know well -- you begin to smell
>> them getting warm!
>>
>> 73,
>>
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> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:48:09 -0400
> From: <sabrams@nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Johnson Matchbox
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> Many years ago I ran a Heath Warrior at 800w thru my 250 Matchbox and it
> never got warm, but when I looked inside, the plastic(?) coil form had
> melted around the coil wires . Check inside!  GL  73  Saul  K2XA
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:32:43 -0700, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>
>>>Ran 500 watts with the SB-200 and it didn't even get warm.
>>
>> Dissipation depends on the voltage and current in individual
>> components, which in turn depends on the exact values of complex
>> impedances being transformed, the frequency, and, of course, the
>> power level. A capacitor that runs cool under one set of conditions
>> may go up in smoke under a different set.
>>
>> Not to worry -- excessive dissipation is usually signalled by a
>> special alarm that seasoned hams know well -- you begin to smell
>> them getting warm!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim K9YC
>>
>>
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