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Re: [TowerTalk] WTB: GAP VOYAGER and a ????

To: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] WTB: GAP VOYAGER and a ????
From: Neal Campbell K3NC <nealk3nc@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:24:50 -0400
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You need the "tuner" 4:1 balun from Array Solutions and should have a  
tuner in the shack. Unless you have a very long run for coax I do not  
think you will lose a lot in losses. I replaced a HF6V with it during  
one weekend and the performance gain was very noticeable.

73,

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On May 9, 2008, at 1:16 PM, K4SAV wrote:

> You have it correct.  It's just a 43 ft aluminum pole.  Run that thru
> EZNEC and you can see what happens to the radiated pattern on the high
> bands, and notice the impedance on different bands.  Yes the SWR is
> high, which is the reason long feedlines can have a lot of loss
> especially on 160 where the real part of the impedance is very low.
>
> Jerry, K4SAV
>
> ve4xt@mts.net wrote:
>
>> Having looked at the Array Solutions website, and not being smart  
>> enough to put two-and-two
>> together, how does the ZeroFive work?
>>
>> It looks like a single continuous radiator -- great for 40, 80 and  
>> 160, probably 20 as well. But it seems
>> to me that on 15 and 10, it's a tad long, particularly the 43- 
>> footer. It seems that on the various bands,
>> matching transformer or not (it says it's a fixed 4:1 un-un), the  
>> base impedance would be all over the
>> Smith Chart.
>>
>> Thanks for any explanation.
>>
>> Kelly
>> ve4xt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
>>> Date: 2008/05/09 Fri AM 11:56:01 CDT
>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] WTB: GAP VOYAGER and a ????
>>>
>>> I don't understand the reasoning for using double bazookas on 40 and
>>> 80.  The only thing that a bazooka provides is wider bandwidth,  
>>> and that
>>> increase is so miniscule that it doesn't seem to be worth while.  It
>>> won't begin to cover all of 75/80 meters, and usually you don't  
>>> need the
>>> extra bandwidth on 40.   A crossed double bazooka will increase the
>>> bandwidth, at the expense of lower gain, but that will still not be
>>> enough to cover all of 75/80.  If you are in need of a coax fed  
>>> antenna
>>> that will cover all of 75/80 consider this one.
>>> http://rudys.typepad.com/ant/files/antenna_broadband_dipole.pdf
>>> Of course a dipole fed with ladderline works also but routing ladder
>>> line and retuning is a pain for some.
>>>
>>> Jerry, K4SAV
>>>
>>> Daniel Hileman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> OK, I got it...I've heard REALLY good things about this Zero-Five  
>>>> 43' Vert, and I think I'd be happier
>>>>
>>>>
>> with that. I really appreciate all the help. Here's the plan...43'  
>> Zero Five for DX (with 60 120' radials OH
>> YEAH) , possibly an inverted "L" for 160 DX/Ragchew...and maybe a  
>> few inverted V/bazookas 75m/40m
>> for stateside 300-1000miles out. I think that sounds like a plan  
>> for now.
>>
>>
>>>> I have heard lots of opinions about the Voyager, and it seems  
>>>> "ok" but I think for what I want 160-
>>>>
>>>>
>> 10m DX on a BUDGET) I'd be happier with the Zero-Five...OR that DX  
>> engineering 43' Vert.
>>
>>
>>>> Maybe later, I'll try a fullsize 75m 1/4 wave vertical suspended  
>>>> between trees?? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and 73 Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel N9WX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _
>>>
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