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Re: [TowerTalk] upgrading from a G5RV

To: KI9A@aol.com, Dennis <radioart@charter.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] upgrading from a G5RV
From: Dennis <radioart@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 6:03:57 -0700
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OK, so balanced only has one L....


---- Dennis <radioart@charter.net> wrote: 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> At the minimum you would want to use a high power balun to interface the 
> unballanced coax with the ballanced 450 ohm line.  As to why type or 
> impediance of balun, that would be determined by the impediance of the 450 
> ohm line at the operating frequency you intend to operate.  I ran some 
> numbers using EZNEC +5.0 for a 135' inverted V dipole 40' high at the center 
> and 10' high at each end.  I modeled the 90' of 450 ohm line you said you 
> could use.  Here is what I got:
> 
> Freq.    R         J
> 3.8      46      -59
> 7.2      31      -71
> 14.2   170     +677
> 21.3    159     -486
> 28.5    130    +254
> 
> AS you can see the R ohms would work for a 1:1 balun on 80m and 40m but a 2 
> or 3:1 balun would work better on 20m, 15m and 10m.  The J ohms are reactance 
> caused by the length of the antenna not being exact multipuls of the 
> frequencies I used on my calculations.   For this reason, at home, I bring 
> the 450 ohm line in through the window and use a Johnson KW matchbox to 
> provide an EXACT match to the 50 ohm line at any frequency.  You could adjust 
> the antenna length to give a lower J at the operating frequencies if you are 
> not able to use a good ballance antennal tuner.
> 
> I do not know what stress you would place on the balun if you tried to use 
> one size to fit all but ,what the heck, its only a hobby....
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Dennis ,k0eoo
> 
>  
> 
> ---- KI9A@aol.com wrote: 
> > Gang-
> >  
> > After some serious tree trimming, I now have room to fit a full sized wire  
> > antenna where my G5RV is right now. I am thinking about a 135' open wire 
> > fed  
> > dipole, as multi bands are needed. 
> >  
> > Question is this- there is now way I can get 450 ohm feedline into the  
> > shack.  The best I can do is about 30' of RG213, then the rest 450 ohm (  
> > maybe 
> > 90').  Is this going to be a waste of my time, or is it worth it? I'd  
> > obviously 
> > use a balun to change over to 50 ohm feedline.
> >  
> > 73- Chuck KI9A
> > 
> > 
> > 
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