That is interesting data, Dick. I would expect the stiffness of the wire to
effect the readings of a Loos gauge, but it's still fairly accurate and much
better than tensioning your guy wires using no gauge.
73,
John KK9A
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 81, Issue 32
From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Reply-to: wc1m73@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:33:53 -0400
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We've been through this discussion before, but when I did a similar test to
Steve's -- i.e., comparing the Loos readings with a Dillon Dynamometer -- I
found that the Loos calibration was not correct for EHS. It was as follows:
Loos Loos Dillon
Reading Chart Reading
26 450 300
27 500 400
30 660 450
31 720 500
32 780 600
33 840 660
34 900 700
35 1000 765
36 1100 850
37 1200 1000
Quite a bit more than a couple percent difference. It's possible that either
Steve's or my Dillon wasn't properly calibrated, or our Loos gauges weren't
functioning the same (the slider has to be well lubed with silicone, and the
spring has to be in good shape.)
Others have done this test. My recollection is that W8JI disputes Steve's
assertion that the guy material becomes more "rod-like" as more tension is
applied, thus eliminating or smoothing out the differences in bending
potential of different materials. I agree with Tom. The Loos gauge is
clearly designed to mention the degree of cable bending, so it seems quite
reasonable that the type of material matters a lot, and that this doesn't
magically fade away as tension is applied. The gauge is calibrated for
stainless-steel wire rope, which is considerably softer than EHS, so it
seems reasonable to expect more than 2% difference.
All that said, the differences in tension shown in my chart for the area of
interest, say 10% of breaking strength or 660 lbs for 6700# Phillystran,
isn't enough to worry me: I don't lose any sleep wondering if my guys are
tensioned closer to 800 lbs than 700 lbs.
Whichever way you come down on this, a Loos gauge is invaluable for setting
and checking guy tension. Regardless of accuracy, it's close enough to let
you set the tension to the right ballpark, and ensure that all the guys are
at the same tension.
73, Dick WC1M
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