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Re: [TowerTalk] Fractal Antenna's

To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fractal Antenna's
From: Martin Ewing <martin.s.ewing@gmail.com>
Reply-to: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:35:28 -0500
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Isn't a log-periodic antenna "fractal" in the sense that it is
scale-independent over a wide range of frequencies?  The newer antennas seem
to be different only in that they are two-dimensional while LPA's are
essentially one-dimensional.

Inquiring minds, etc...

73 Martin AA6E

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Neal Campbell <nealk3nc@gmail.com> wrote:

> The greatest story on this is from a show on PBS about Fractal Geometry.The
> first half of the show is about how skeptical and belittling the
> mathmatical
> world was about fractal geometry when it could be proven over and over and
> seen recurring everywhere in nature.
>
> The second half of the show was about the practical applications of
> fractals
> and they spent quite a bit of time telling the story of Nathan Cohen who as
> a ham started to wonder if antennas would benefit from fractal design and
> wrote a paper in Communications Quarterly. He kept going, finally starting
> up the Fractal Antenna company which sells antennas it seems in the cell
> phone market, etc.
>
> Its a great great show.
>
> Neal Campbell
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>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Vic Watkins <watkins.vic@comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> > The web site was up and working yesterday.  http://www.fractenna.com
> >
> > Vic  (W7VLW)
> >
> > On 2/20/2010 6:15 AM, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > You will find information about Fractal Antennas in back issues  of Ham
> > > Radio Magazine. CQ Magazine offers CD ROM copies I believe.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Gerald K5GW
> > >
> > >
> > > s In a message dated 2/20/2010 5:03:32 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > Jim.thom@telus.net writes:
> > >
> > > Some  time back there was an article in QST about Fractal Antennas and
> I
> > > believe  they used one on 10 meters.
> > > So far, searches find listings, but the pages  have been blank.
> > >
> > > They'd be a limited space antenna with negative gain  and are more
> often
> > > associated with cell phones
> > >
> > > Anything happening  along this front and where did all the examples go?
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Roger  (K8RI)
> > > ##  Fractal ant's  were the subject of a big article in  Scientific
> > > American many year's ago. Cell co's  were all  going to  use em,
> greatest
> > thing
> > > sincesliced bread, 1.2 deg BW, etc.  Fractal ants  are a myth, just
> like
> > the
> > > 'air car'. Jim  VE7RF
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-- 
Dr. Martin S. Ewing, AA6E
Member IEEE, URSI, AAS, ARRL
Branford, Connecticut
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