That reminds me of my concrete experience. Myself and 4 friends wheelbarrowed
3 yards of concrete into the backyard in about 25 minutes. Distance was about
70 feet one way to the hole. I laid down some old plywood on the lawn and made
a 2x6 ramp to go up one step in the backyard to make the "drive" easier. It
really wasn't that big of a deal at all. Most of the time we had 3
wheelbarrows waiting in queue to go under the chute for a refill. Don't be
afraid of the wheelbarrow. But the pizza and beer is on you when you're done.
:-)
Chris
KF7P
On Mar 11, 2010, at 21:18 , Mike wrote:
Most cement/concrete guys are in terrible shape at the moment, they will be
happy to deliver minimum 3 yards. They will make delivery charge, so try
and pick a company close to you. Concrete pump people do not charge
transport here anyway.
Telephone a few different companies and tell each one that you have phoned
around for quotes and you may be surprised what they will do.
Even in California here I had 3 yards delivered and I had a concrete pump
guy to pump the concrete into the hole. The cost was around $900.00 total
for pump, Concrete and delivery. I can tell you the pump guy earned his 260
bucks with 30 minutes preparation and 30 minutes clean up time plus 15
minutes to pump the concrete 50 yards. If you do use a concrete pump you
have to let the concrete people know so that they can use smaller round
stones.
Usually if you have the concrete delivered they will wait about an hour or
less (ask them for their waiting time) while you wheelbarrow it to the hole
and charge waiting time which is expensive after that time. For some reason
if you use a concrete pump they will stick around for as long as it takes
with no extra charge, maybe it is because the concrete delivery guy does not
have to do much work when you pump concrete. With wheelbarrows he has to
keep opening and shutting the valve for an hour.
If you have concrete left over use it to make something like concrete
weights. Put it in plastic buckets that pool tablets come in and make a "U
shape" out of left over re-bar to make a hook and put into the center of the
concrete filled bucket. When it is "set", a couple of them make a great
cheap counter weight for a tilt over tower like a LM-470.
Mike, K6BR
-----Original Message-----
There is such a thing as a false economy - but I think
it would be difficult to finish 2.5 yards by hand, in a
timely manner. Such a pour should be done in one shot,
that is going to be tough.
If you have any value on your time, adding the cost of
materials, etc, you quickly cost more than the price of
redi-mix.
Although some places have a 5 yard minimum, most of
those will deliver 2.5 yards, with a extra delivery charge. Most
of the places I have bought concrete in the past 6 months,
NY, PA, OH, MO, and OK, have been right around 75 bucks
a yard, plus a delivery charge for under 4-6 yards.
Cheaper to call them for me!
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Swiderski, KU4BP" <ku4bp@triad.rr.com>
To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mixing concrete for a base
>
> No, don't like pain. Just trying to it right with the least amount of
> money.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:17 PM
> To: Tower and HF antenna construction topics.
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mixing concrete for a base
>
> 6 bags of cement, 8 cubic feet of sand, and 20 cubic feet of gravel makes
> on
> square yard of concrete - using the 1, 2, 3 measuring.
>
> It also makes for a terrible day.
>
> Do you just like pain? I cannot imagine mixing 2.5 yards, I would use the
> local redi mix plant.
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Swiderski, KU4BP" <ku4bp@triad.rr.com>
> To: "Tower Talk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:57 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Mixing concrete for a base
>
>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm considering mixing my own concrete for my installation. Been trying
>> to
>> get a grasp on how much cement, gravel and sand to get. My proposed base
>> is
>> for 70ft of 25G. Total, with the anchors, is 2.2 cu yds. Call it 2.5
>> since
>
>> I
>> plan to "bell" the base.
>>
>> I was pricing the ingredients today but got a little confused on the
>> amount
>> of each needed. I looked at 94 lb bags of cement and 50 lb bags for both
>> the
>> sand and gravel. The problem I had was determining how much in cu yds a
>> bag
>> would cover. I have seen that a 50 lb bag of sand covers .5 cu yd.
>>
>> So what I'm looking for is a formula of some sort so I can figure out how
>> much I will need of each. I've heard of the "1-2-3 rule" but not 100%
>> sure
>> I'm using it correctly.
>>
>>
>> Ed KU4BP
>>
>>
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