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Re: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls

To: "'Robert Harmon'" <k6uj@pacbell.net>, "'Steven Kerns'" <n3fti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls
From: "J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT" <w2ttt@att.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:47:43 -0000
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Bob,
I had a unit from Bird-X about five years ago and I found that it produced
an amazing amount of RFI on HF and 6M.  I can't recall if it extended up to
2M.  One strategy might be to turn it off, when operating.  
Which model did you find helpful and what is your experience with RFI from
the device?  

Thanks & 73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964


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[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Harmon
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:43 PM
To: Steven Kerns
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls

Steve,

You are quite right.   Duly noted.  No more on divining rods from
me..................

Back to our forum, hi,hi.
I couldn't find much in the archives on solutions to birds on our antennas.
I wanted to follow 
up on my last comment concerning my (unsuccessful)  experience with a
plastic owl for bird abatement. 
I have found a solution that so far has worked well for me.
We are surrounded with vineyards around here and birds are are big issue for
the winery owners.
I found out that many of the wineries use a network of ultrasonic bird
repellers.   It was suggested
that I try a small ultrasonic unit mounted close to the tower.  I purchased
a small unit manufactured by Bird-X
from Home Depot and mounted it about 5 foot up from the base of the tower.
Voila, it works !
The cost for one of these units isn't much more than a plastic owl.   I
cleaned the bird droppings 
off my owl and mounted him on a fence post in the back yard.  (I may have to
mount a tiny umbrella
above him to protect him from bird droppings, hi,hi)

73,
Bob
K6UJ





On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Steven Kerns wrote:

> I thought this forum was towerTalk.  I see nothing here in this lengthly
discussion that has to do with towers...
> 
> I am sure you can find a divining forum somewhere on the internet to
further discuss this.
> 
> 
> Steve, N3FTI
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Divining rods
>> To: hanslg@aol.com
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:33 AM
>> Hans,
>> 
>> I'll bet it can, hi,hi.  
>> 
>> I'll tell you one thing they sure don't scare the birds
>> away.
>> I bought one from HRO and put it on the very top of the
>> mast on my tower.  I didn't notice any decrease in the
>> birds.
>> After about six months I was up on the tower doing some
>> antenna work and climbed up to check on the owl.
>> The birds didn't give my owl any respect, he was covered
>> with bird s### , hi,hi.
>> 
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:23 PM, hanslg@aol.com
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder if a north-seeking, plastic owl can do?
>>> 
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
>>> To: Alan NV8A <nv8a@charter.net>
>>> Cc: TowerTalk <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 8:10 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan NV8A wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I remember reading decades ago that, according to
>> the laws of 
>>>> aerodynamics, bees cannot fly because their wings
>> are not large enough
>>>> for their body size. The bees, however, being
>> unfamiliar with the laws 
>>>> of aerodynamics, just keep flying anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's a canard..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it was originally intended to demonstrate that simple
>> models do not 
>>> always work (e.g. flapping wings are not steady state
>> flow, no you can't 
>>> neglect thermodynamics, etc.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sort of like modeling an antenna as a lumped
>> RLC.  Works for small 
>>> frequency ranges, but not for large ones.
>>> 
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