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>   1. Re: [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete   pour
>      (Richard L. King)
>   2. Re: [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete   pour
>      (bemeier)
>   3. Re: [CTDXCC] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before
>      theconcrete pour (Derek Wills)
>   4. Re: [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before       theconcrete     pour
>      (K5WA)
>   5. Re: [CTDXCC] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole
>      beforetheconcrete pour (Bill)
>   6. Re2: (WILLIAM MARX)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:29:28 -0000
> From: "Richard L. King" <k5na@ecpi.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before
>        theconcrete     pour
> To: "Allen Brier N5XZ" <n5xz@earthlink.net>, <tdxs-list@tdxs.net>,
>        "Tower Talk" <towertalk@contesting.com>,        "BVARC Reflector"
>        <bvarc@bvarc.org>,      "NARS Reflector" <nars@mailman.qth.net>, 
> "CTDXCC"
>        <ctdxcc@kkn.net>,       "ak-contesters" 
> <ak-contesters@googlegroups.com>
> Message-ID: <1B29E93A8A384C7C8CF29FA7896F5964@K5NA>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>        reply-type=original
>
> I am not saying that I started this tradition, but I remember my first tower
> in 1973 in Alvin, Texas around 1973. I placed at the bottom of the tower
> base hole a JT1 card. That QSL selection was based on the rarest QSL that I
> had that I felt I could part with. It was JT1-something on 20M SSB.
>
> Since then, on the many, many towers that I have erected, I have always
> placed a mixture of rare DX QSLs and contest QSO QSLs. It has always worked
> well for me with operating results.
>
> I honestly don't remember if that first QSL under the first tower base was
> my idea or something that I had heard before.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Brier N5XZ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: tdxs-list@tdxs.net ; Tower Talk ; BVARC Reflector ; NARS Reflector ;
> CTDXCC ; ak-contesters
> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
> pour
>
>
> I always heard it was supposed to be a JT card. Anyway, when I poured my
> base, I threw in a bunch of cards, including a JT that actually wound up
> touching the rebar base when it landed (I have a picture of it for proof). I
> considered that very good juju. I also threw in cards from every continent
> and a bunch of JA cards. Just for good measure, I threw in a card from
> Martti to help with DXpeditions. I think I threw in about 40 or 50 cards,
> based on some formula I had devised in my head, which of course has long
> since passed through the sieves of my mind. It all seemed to make sense at
> the time. Bottom line is that the antenna seems to work very well.
>
> There must be some "official" site spelling out the folk lore of the "QSL in
> the Hole". Perhaps Tom or someone else could weigh in there to educate the
> rest of us believers.
>
> Allen N5XZ / KL5DX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> Well wait!  It is according to what you want the antennas to do.  If it is a
> DX station, then you are correct.  If it is a contest station, then a JA
> card because you want large JA runs.  And that's not just me saying that,
> even though I have 54 years ham radio experience, I got it from my contest
> Elmer, K5RC so it HAS to be right!
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <rmthorne@att.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before the concrete pour
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/31/2011 4:00:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>>
>>> Now for the more important question.  If I remember  correctly, I'm
>> supposed to sacrifice a prized qsl card by throwing it in  the bottom of
>> the hole prior to the pour, correct?
>>
>>
>>   Yessireebob. It'll help prevent bad juju.  And not just a JA card. It's
>> supposed to be a more meaningful DX  card.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve    K7LXC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bemeier <bemeier@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before
>        theconcrete     pour
> To: Allen Brier N5XZ <n5xz@earthlink.net>, tdxs-list@tdxs.net,  Tower
>        Talk <towertalk@contesting.com>, BVARC Reflector <bvarc@bvarc.org>,
>        NARS Reflector <nars@mailman.qth.net>, CTDXCC <ctdxcc@kkn.net>,
>        ak-contesters <ak-contesters@googlegroups.com>, "Richard L. King"
>        <k5na@ecpi.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <1320246170.81583.YahooMailClassic@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> When we built our new station here in North Carolina, my wife (Laurie?- 
> N1YXU) had a suggestion that we followed up on.? As we were building (3) 
> towers, she suggested putting a selection of "band appropriate" JA cards in 
> the base.? By that I mean, in the 15 meter tower base we put cards from JA1 - 
> JA0 for ONLY 15 meter Qs.? The same format was followed for the 20 meter 
> tower.? However, as 40 mtrs and 10 mtrs are combined on one tower, that base 
> has JA1 - JA0 cards for both?40 and 10 included.
> ?
> Based on the performance in last weeks CQWW, she had a GREAT IDEA.
> ?
> 73,
> Bruce - N1LN
> (aka: NC4KW)
>
> --- On Wed, 11/2/11, Richard L. King <k5na@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Richard L. King <k5na@ecpi.com>
> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete 
> pour
> To: "Allen Brier N5XZ" <n5xz@earthlink.net>, tdxs-list@tdxs.net, "Tower Talk" 
> <towertalk@contesting.com>, "BVARC Reflector" <bvarc@bvarc.org>, "NARS 
> Reflector" <nars@mailman.qth.net>, "CTDXCC" <ctdxcc@kkn.net>, "ak-contesters" 
> <ak-contesters@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 10:29 AM
>
>
> I am not saying that I started this tradition, but I remember my first tower
> in 1973 in Alvin, Texas around 1973. I placed at the bottom of the tower
> base hole a JT1 card. That QSL selection was based on the rarest QSL that I
> had that I felt I could part with. It was JT1-something on 20M SSB.
>
> Since then, on the many, many towers that I have erected, I have always
> placed a mixture of rare DX QSLs and contest QSO QSLs. It has always worked
> well for me with operating results.
>
> I honestly don't remember if that first QSL under the first tower base was
> my idea or something that I had heard before.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Brier N5XZ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: tdxs-list@tdxs.net ; Tower Talk ; BVARC Reflector ; NARS Reflector ;
> CTDXCC ; ak-contesters
> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
> pour
>
>
> I always heard it was supposed to be a JT card. Anyway, when I poured my
> base, I threw in a bunch of cards, including a JT that actually wound up
> touching the rebar base when it landed (I have a picture of it for proof). I
> considered that very good juju. I also threw in cards from every continent
> and a bunch of JA cards. Just for good measure, I threw in a card from
> Martti to help with DXpeditions. I think I threw in about 40 or 50 cards,
> based on some formula I had devised in my head, which of course has long
> since passed through the sieves of my mind. It all seemed to make sense at
> the time. Bottom line is that the antenna seems to work very well.
>
> There must be some "official" site spelling out the folk lore of the "QSL in
> the Hole". Perhaps Tom or someone else could weigh in there to educate the
> rest of us believers.
>
> Allen N5XZ / KL5DX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> Well wait!? It is according to what you want the antennas to do.? If it is a
> DX station, then you are correct.? If it is a contest station, then a JA
> card because you want large JA runs.? And that's not just me saying that,
> even though I have 54 years ham radio experience, I got it from my contest
> Elmer, K5RC so it HAS to be right!
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <rmthorne@att.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before the concrete pour
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/31/2011 4:00:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>>
>>> ? Now for the more important question.? If I remember? correctly, I'm
>> supposed to sacrifice a prized qsl card by throwing it in? the bottom of
>> the hole prior to the pour, correct?
>>
>>
>> ? ? Yessireebob. It'll help prevent bad juju.? And not just a JA card. It's
>> supposed to be a more meaningful DX? card.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve? ? K7LXC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:11:04 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Derek Wills <oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [CTDXCC] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole
>        before  theconcrete pour
> To: ak-contesters@googlegroups.com, bvarc@bvarc.org, ctdxcc@kkn.net,
>        k5na@ecpi.com, n5xz@earthlink.net, nars@mailman.qth.net,
>        tdxs-list@tdxs.net, towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <201111021511.pA2FB46L008151@astro.as.utexas.edu>
>
> I'd be sorely tempted to throw all my cards in for ballast.
>
> Derek
> aa5bt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:29:18 -0500
> From: "K5WA" <K5WA@Comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole before
>        theconcrete     pour
> To: "'Richard L. King'" <k5na@ecpi.com>,        "'Allen Brier N5XZ'"
>        <n5xz@earthlink.net>, <tdxs-list@tdxs.net>,     "'Tower Talk'"
>        <towertalk@contesting.com>,     "'BVARC Reflector'" <bvarc@bvarc.org>,
>        "'NARS Reflector'" <nars@mailman.qth.net>, "'CTDXCC'"
>        <ctdxcc@kkn.net>,       "'ak-contesters'" 
> <ak-contesters@googlegroups.com>
> Message-ID: <001601cc9974$309db640$91d922c0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> That JT1 card not only made the antennas work better, but it also held up
> the tower physically because Richard's guy wires were at an 89 degree rise
> angle and it still defies physics that the tower withstood the hurricanes it
> went through over the years.
>
> Bob K5WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard L. King [mailto:k5na@ecpi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: Allen Brier N5XZ; tdxs-list@tdxs.net; Tower Talk; BVARC Reflector; NARS
> Reflector; CTDXCC; ak-contesters
> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
> pour
>
> I am not saying that I started this tradition, but I remember my first tower
>
> in 1973 in Alvin, Texas around 1973. I placed at the bottom of the tower
> base hole a JT1 card. That QSL selection was based on the rarest QSL that I
> had that I felt I could part with. It was JT1-something on 20M SSB.
>
> Since then, on the many, many towers that I have erected, I have always
> placed a mixture of rare DX QSLs and contest QSO QSLs. It has always worked
> well for me with operating results.
>
> I honestly don't remember if that first QSL under the first tower base was
> my idea or something that I had heard before.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Brier N5XZ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:49 AM
> To: tdxs-list@tdxs.net ; Tower Talk ; BVARC Reflector ; NARS Reflector ;
> CTDXCC ; ak-contesters
> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
>
> pour
>
>
> I always heard it was supposed to be a JT card. Anyway, when I poured my
> base, I threw in a bunch of cards, including a JT that actually wound up
> touching the rebar base when it landed (I have a picture of it for proof). I
>
> considered that very good juju. I also threw in cards from every continent
> and a bunch of JA cards. Just for good measure, I threw in a card from
> Martti to help with DXpeditions. I think I threw in about 40 or 50 cards,
> based on some formula I had devised in my head, which of course has long
> since passed through the sieves of my mind. It all seemed to make sense at
> the time. Bottom line is that the antenna seems to work very well.
>
> There must be some "official" site spelling out the folk lore of the "QSL in
>
> the Hole". Perhaps Tom or someone else could weigh in there to educate the
> rest of us believers.
>
> Allen N5XZ / KL5DX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> Well wait!  It is according to what you want the antennas to do.  If it is a
> DX station, then you are correct.  If it is a contest station, then a JA
> card because you want large JA runs.  And that's not just me saying that,
> even though I have 54 years ham radio experience, I got it from my contest
> Elmer, K5RC so it HAS to be right!
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <rmthorne@att.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before the concrete pour
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/31/2011 4:00:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>>
>>> Now for the more important question.  If I remember  correctly, I'm
>> supposed to sacrifice a prized qsl card by throwing it in  the bottom of
>> the hole prior to the pour, correct?
>>
>>
>>   Yessireebob. It'll help prevent bad juju.  And not just a JA card. It's
>> supposed to be a more meaningful DX  card.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve    K7LXC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:51:50 -0500
> From: "Bill" <bbradford1957@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [CTDXCC] [tdxs-list] QSL card in the hole
>        beforetheconcrete       pour
> To: "K5WA" <K5WA@Comcast.net>, "'Richard L. King'" <k5na@ecpi.com>,
>        "'Allen Brier N5XZ'" <n5xz@earthlink.net>, <tdxs-list@tdxs.net>,
>        "'Tower Talk'" <towertalk@contesting.com>,      "'BVARC Reflector'"
>        <bvarc@bvarc.org>,      "'NARS Reflector'" <nars@mailman.qth.net>,
>        "'CTDXCC'" <ctdxcc@kkn.net>,    "'ak-contesters'"
>        <ak-contesters@googlegroups.com>
> Message-ID: <0CB6E8D1EF9346BDB6566B75B5B6B163@BILL>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Richard's towers also survived, SOMEHOW, through all the snow / ice storms 
> while living in New York.
>
> Bill K5GA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: K5WA
>  To: 'Richard L. King' ; 'Allen Brier N5XZ' ; tdxs-list@tdxs.net ; 'Tower 
> Talk' ; 'BVARC Reflector' ; 'NARS Reflector' ; 'CTDXCC' ; 'ak-contesters'
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:29 AM
>  Subject: Re: [CTDXCC] [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole 
> beforetheconcrete pour
>
>
>  That JT1 card not only made the antennas work better, but it also held up
>  the tower physically because Richard's guy wires were at an 89 degree rise
>  angle and it still defies physics that the tower withstood the hurricanes it
>  went through over the years.
>
>  Bob K5WA
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Richard L. King [mailto:k5na@ecpi.com]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:29 AM
>  To: Allen Brier N5XZ; tdxs-list@tdxs.net; Tower Talk; BVARC Reflector; NARS
>  Reflector; CTDXCC; ak-contesters
>  Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
>  pour
>
>  I am not saying that I started this tradition, but I remember my first tower
>
>  in 1973 in Alvin, Texas around 1973. I placed at the bottom of the tower
>  base hole a JT1 card. That QSL selection was based on the rarest QSL that I
>  had that I felt I could part with. It was JT1-something on 20M SSB.
>
>  Since then, on the many, many towers that I have erected, I have always
>  placed a mixture of rare DX QSLs and contest QSO QSLs. It has always worked
>  well for me with operating results.
>
>  I honestly don't remember if that first QSL under the first tower base was
>  my idea or something that I had heard before.
>
>  73, Richard - K5NA
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Allen Brier N5XZ
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:49 AM
>  To: tdxs-list@tdxs.net ; Tower Talk ; BVARC Reflector ; NARS Reflector ;
>  CTDXCC ; ak-contesters
>  Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before theconcrete
>
>  pour
>
>
>  I always heard it was supposed to be a JT card. Anyway, when I poured my
>  base, I threw in a bunch of cards, including a JT that actually wound up
>  touching the rebar base when it landed (I have a picture of it for proof). I
>
>  considered that very good juju. I also threw in cards from every continent
>  and a bunch of JA cards. Just for good measure, I threw in a card from
>  Martti to help with DXpeditions. I think I threw in about 40 or 50 cards,
>  based on some formula I had devised in my head, which of course has long
>  since passed through the sieves of my mind. It all seemed to make sense at
>  the time. Bottom line is that the antenna seems to work very well.
>
>  There must be some "official" site spelling out the folk lore of the "QSL in
>
>  the Hole". Perhaps Tom or someone else could weigh in there to educate the
>  rest of us believers.
>
>  Allen N5XZ / KL5DX
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>  Well wait!  It is according to what you want the antennas to do.  If it is a
>  DX station, then you are correct.  If it is a contest station, then a JA
>  card because you want large JA runs.  And that's not just me saying that,
>  even though I have 54 years ham radio experience, I got it from my contest
>  Elmer, K5RC so it HAS to be right!
>
>  Chuck W5PR
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
>  To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <rmthorne@att.net>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:48 AM
>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] QSL card in the hole before the concrete pour
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/31/2011 4:00:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>>
>>> Now for the more important question.  If I remember  correctly, I'm
>> supposed to sacrifice a prized qsl card by throwing it in  the bottom of
>> the hole prior to the pour, correct?
>>
>>
>>   Yessireebob. It'll help prevent bad juju.  And not just a JA card. It's
>> supposed to be a more meaningful DX  card.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve    K7LXC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: WILLIAM MARX <bmarx@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Re2:
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>            Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:42:21
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> "In order to be sure that the operators all along the line were not asleep at 
> their posts, they were required to send to the train dispatchers office a 
> certain dot-and-dash signal every hour in the night." (c) Daylyn wldotka3
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