I'll throw my two cents in for the best rig. My Lafayette HE10 rx. I
could hear the whole band on 160 with that rx...all at once.
XS
In a message dated 2/3/2012 3:50:57 A.M. Greenwich Standard Time,
lromero@ij.net writes:
Dont mean to start another "which rig is best" war, but
Mark, Im glad it works so well for you. I just personally
never cared for how any of the Orions I have used sound in
SSB, and the receiver overloads so easily... Could be I dont
know how to run it well...
Plus, my desk is not big enough to take that huge box!
Other than that, I like Coke, you like Pepsi, lets leave it
at that.
This is a very subjective issue.
-lu-
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Mark Luhrman <w4svo@att.net>
To: lromero@ij.net, K1to@aol.com, fcg@kkn.net,
n4ww@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [FCG] CQWW 160
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:35:41 -0800 (PST)
>Well today I downloaded the newest firmware version for the
>Orion. And all I can say is the audio on ssb is fantastic.
>It is some of the best sounding audio I have ever heard on
>a radio. And now you can actually use the NR and understand
>what they are saying. The new SAF feature was added. It is
>like the old APF that was used in CW mode, but can be used
>in all modes, is unbelievable. You can peak all signals
>now. They jump right out of the mud. Mark
>W4SVO________________________________From: Lu Romero
><lromero@ij.net>To: K1to@aol.com; fcg@kkn.net;
>n4ww@earthlink.netSent: Thu, February 2, 2012 4:29:58
>PMSubject: Re: [FCG] CQWW 160Doc, et. al:Its my opinion
>that the FT5k and the K3, having similararchitecture,
>behave similarly. You *THINK* that the radiosdont hear
as
>well as an older triple conversion high IFanalog radio, but
>they do, just that the receiver noise isso "different"
>sounding in these rigs that you mind thinksthat they cant
>hear as well as what youre used to.I have not listened to a
>FT5k much, b ut I have listened to aK3 a lot and in
>comparison to a TS590 and a IC7700, I canhear everything
>the other two can hear, but the band noiseis so much less
>and so different sounding (less "white/pink"noise, more of
>a wideband "howl") that my brain, accustomedto listening to
>analog rigs for years, thinks that since Idont hear so much
>band noise, that the receiver must bedeaf. It has taken
me
>a while to adapt, and now when I usea rig like a FT1000 or
>a 7700/7800, they sound weird andreally noisy to me.
>(Orions just never sounded right to myear, especially on
>phone, but that's just another storyaltogether).At least in
>my experience these rigs hear as well or attimes better
>than the triple conversion analog rigs do, butas usual,
>your milage may vary .I did the last SS SSB with a 7700 and
>that crunchy, cracklyreceiver IMD on a busy phone band that
>I remember so wellfrom years listening to a TS850 was right
>there like Iremembered it. I NEVER EVER heard that on
the
>K3 in SS SSB2010, even in the same heavy QRM on the same
>big antennas. Note that a TS590 is *NOT* a low IF
>downconverting rig on 10meters like the K3/FT5k/Orion... it
>is a traditional high IFtriple superhetrodyne receiver on
>that band; it uses thedownconverting low IF architecture on
>15, 20, 40, 80 and 160only, therefore, it is more like
>a7700/7800/FT1000/TS940/TS950/TS850 on 10 meters and the
>WARCbands. So on those bands, it sounds just like a
>TS850/TS940to me. Kenwood, being the audio gods that they
>are, havedone a masterful job of masking and smoothing out
>the"digital" sound of the 590 on the downconverting bands
>andmaking it sound more like an analog radio there. It
is
>,frankly, much smoother and less "edgy/nervous" sounding
>thana K3, even after installing the low pass filter mod
>andappl ying the receiver EQ tricks that I play with on my
>K3.-lu-w4lt------ Original Message Follows -----From:
>K1to@aol.comTo: fcg@kkn.netSubject: Re: [FCG] CQWW 160Date:
>Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:39:38 -0500 (EST)>When using the MP on
>10M, I always switch the preamp in,>using menu item 8-4
>from FLAT to TUNED. > >No idea whether the FT5000
performs
>similarly. > >We missed EW1WA @ W8JI -- nice job,
Doc! >
>>73, Dan> > >In a message dated 2/2/2012 10:19:21 A.M.
>Eastern Standard>Time, n4ww@earthlink.net writes:>>I
was
>really bummed out last year on 160 when it became>apparent
>that I was not hearing the weak european>stations
(due to
>local qrn) as well as I needed to be>competitive
while
>calling cq.>>B ut here I am back with another score, but
>it took until>0500z the first night to get on the air.
>>>Really funny conditions, a few strong european sgnals
>for>30 minutes or so the first night and then they
>all>disappeared after 0600z. Second night much better
>with a>peak around 0330. While calling cq and working an
>>occasional european like dl/ok I still had very
>few>european mults. So at the peak I tuned my
assisted
>band>map and in succession from 0326-0359 I had mostly
all
>new>multipliers in a row--lz9w,hg1s,sk7dx,f5in,ei2cn>
>,p33w,4o3a,yt8a,9a2dq,iz4dpv,hb9lcw,lx7i,m5o,sx3t,ew1wa>
>,sn7q.on9cc,co6lp,yo9hp. What a hoot!!!>>Otherwise where
>were all the africans? Not even an ea8 or>the always
>super op from d44... bummer! >>Went to bed at least by
>3-4 am. So no JA's in log. Only>asian p33w if you can
>call that an asian. Saw spots for>TA's but always barely
>copyable and didnt feel like>causing myself pain by
>trying to qso them.>>The ft500 worked well and I think I
>am convinced it is>worth the
> switch from my old reliable ts940. It is of>course a
>pleasure to operate while running with all>newest
roofing
>stuff and dsp stuff but I was still not >convinced that
>the new technology doesnt take a db off the >extremely weak
>160 signal. I tuned both radios on weak>signal after
weak
>signal and the ft5000 won or equaled>the value of weak
>signal 160 battle with the ts940. >>When I first got the
>ft500 I was a little freaked out on 10> meters while
>tuning a weak signal (vk0th) I thought the>ts940 was
more
>sensitive but I could hear the signal on>both radios
just
>sounded louder on ts940. That is one of>reasons I
never
>became a fan of ft1000d/mp because all >weak signals on
ts
>94 0 were louder than ft1000 on 10>meters and in some
>cases it was a difference maker I>felt.>>73 doc
>n4ww>>CQ160CW Score Summary Sheet>>Start Date :
>2012-01-28>>CallSign Used : N4WW>Operator(s) :
>N4WW>>Operator Category : MULTI-ONE>Band : ALL>Power
:
>HIGH>Mode : CW>Default Exchange : FL>Gridsquare :
>EL98HQ>>Name : austin regal>Address : 1425 foxfire
>dr>City/State/Zip : apopka FL 32712>Country :
USA>>ARRL
>Section : NFL>Club/Team : florida contest group>Software :
>N1MM Logger V12.1.3>>Band QSOs Pts StP
DXC>1.8
>535 1889 55 51>Total 535
1889 55
>51>>>Score : 200,234>Rig : >>Antennas : >>Soapbox :
>>>I
>have observed all competition rules as well as
>all>regulations established for amateur radio in my
>country. My>report is correct and true to the best of my
>knowledge. I>agree to be bound by the decisions of the
>Contest>Committee.>>>>Date : 2012-01-29
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