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Re: [TowerTalk] Solutions for Tower Base in Fresh Water?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Solutions for Tower Base in Fresh Water?
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:07:06 -0400 (EDT)
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I was in a similar situation when I built my station about 15 years  ago.  
It wasn't flat but had some areas where the anchors would have been  in your 
kind of soil.  Solution: bring in about 15 or 20 yds of sand  fill to make 
a gently sloping mound where an anchor base was built.  It  lasted for 10 
years before I moved and none of the anchors ever moved even  though we had 
several passes from hurricanes.
 
Assuming the tower is a Rohn 25 the hole really needs to be no  deeper than 
around 3 to 4 feet.  This should be a solution for  you.
 
Bill K4XS
 
 
In a message dated 3/19/2012 12:36:52 P.M. Greenwich Standard Time,  
llibsch@bellsouth.net writes:

Group  -

Our club has bought a tower for use  at our new club shack on 
the edge of the 'glades. The 'glades is fresh  water this far north and 
west. The water table at the site is 30 inches  below ground level. The 
soil is mixed gravel, sand, and earth fill for  about 2 1/2 feet, then 
wet sand below 30 inches.  Our tower is an old  Rohn  with a three legged 
tilt base to which the tower attaches. The  Rohn plans for a concrete 
tower base suggest the bottom of the 6 foot,  open, galvanized steel legs 
of the tilt base be placed into 9 in of (dry)  sand and the concrete base 
poured around the legs above the sand. It seems  likely that the the tilt 
base legs below the concrete base will always be  in water, and that 
water will stand inside the legs to the level of the  water table. Much 
of the concrete base will stand in wet sand below the  water table.  As 
concrete is water permeable and drys slowly, it is  likely that the 
outside of the tower base legs will also be wet from the  top of the 
concrete base down.  We seek an understanding of the  special problems 
this situation presents to the safe construction of a  tower base and 
solutions to those problems. So far, we recognize three  likely problems:

1)    Corrosion issues with the steel legs both inside and below 
the concrete  base. What can we do to minimize this problem?

2)   It seems likely wet sand is a less firm base than  dry 
soil. What changes should we make to the size and /or the shape of the  
concrete base from the Rohn plans?

3)   Any hole deeper than 30 inches fills quickly with  water. 
Will we be able to dig a hole 7 feet deep and 5 feet by 5 feet  wide? If 
we manage to dig an acceptable hole, it will fill with  water.
Can we pour concrete into a water  filled hole and have it set 
up properly?



Larry,   K4KGG

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