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Re: [TowerTalk] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PRO

To: Alan NV8A <nv8a@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
From: Frank <frankkamp@att.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:11:36 -0500
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Sounds like what is really needed is a petition to outlaw HOAs.

Or, better yet don't locate in an area that has an HOA and rn off anyone 
that tries to start one.


Alan NV8A wrote:

>It is my understanding that -- at least in many cases -- the "no 
>antennas" clauses in CC&Rs and HOA rules were put there to satisfy the 
>cable companies, which said, "If you outlaw antennas, we'll cable your 
>subdivision free of charge." OTARD overrode these to the extent that 
>occupants can install TV antennas and DBS dishes on balconies, etc., to 
>which they have exclusive access.
>
>Those CC&Rs and HOA rules also typically outlaw all forms of radio 
>transmitting equipment, which, strictly speaking, outlaws remote garage 
>door openers, cell phones, cordless phones, wireless door bells, baby 
>monitors, home WiFi installations, and some remote controls for sound 
>and TV devices.
>
>73
>
>Alan NV8A
>
>On 04/23/12 02:30 pm, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
>  
>
>>I think you'll find that applies to public ordinances (e.g. zoning laws) , 
>>not deed covenants.
>>
>>Al
>>AB2ZY
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: prstoetzer@gmail.com [prstoetzer@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer 
>>[n8hm@arrl.net]
>>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:03 PM
>>To: Al Kozakiewicz
>>Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA 
>>PROHIBITIONS
>>
>>Somebody should tell the FCC that. They did exactly that by voiding 
>>prohibitions on TV antennas and DBS satellite dishes.
>>
>>Paul
>>N8HM
>>
>>On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Al 
>>Kozakiewicz<akozak@hourglass.com<mailto:akozak@hourglass.com>>  wrote:
>>Someone needs to tell N4UM that the FCC has no statutory power to rewrite 
>>contract law or unilaterally void lawful existing contracts.
>>
>>Nice sentiment, but unfortunately a waste of time.
>>
>>Al
>>AB2ZY
>>
>>________________________________________
>>From: 
>>towertalk-bounces@contesting.com<mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com>  
>>[towertalk-bounces@contesting.com<mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com>] 
>>On Behalf Of Allen Brier N5XZ [n5xz@earthlink.net<mailto:n5xz@earthlink.net>]
>>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:50 PM
>>To: tentenlist@list.ten-ten.org<mailto:tentenlist@list.ten-ten.org>; 
>>towertalk@contesting.com<mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
>>Cc: Allen Brier
>>Subject: [TowerTalk] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA     
>>  PROHIBITIONS
>>
>>PLEASE CROSS-POST THIS TO AS MANY REFLECTORS; SEND TO AS MANY HAMS AND 
>>NON-HAMS AND PRINT IN AS MANY NEWSLETTERS AS POSSIBLE!!
>>
>>FROM QRZ.COM<http://QRZ.COM>:
>>
>>RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
>>
>>N4UM tells Newsline that he has begun a petition drive to the FCC. This, in 
>>an attempt to get the regulatory agency to void antenna prohibitions by 
>>developers and Home Owners Associations.
>>
>>As of this report the petition has garnered over 1000 signatures. N4UM says 
>>that he is doing this now because the FCC is currently requesting formal 
>>comments on emergency communications in amateur radio. The agency also wants 
>>to know the effects of impediments to the amateur radio service as part of 
>>the Docket GN 12-91 inquiry.
>>
>>Comments on this federal study close on May 17th. N4UM says that his petition 
>>will also close on this same day. You can find his petition on-line at 
>>tinyurl.com/antenna-rights<http://tinyurl.com/antenna-rights>  (N4UM)
>>
>>
>>I don't know how much good this will do, but I can't see how it could hurt 
>>any pending efforts. At minimum it will bring some more attention to the 
>>subject by all concerned. In any case, PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION!
>>    
>>
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