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Re: [TowerTalk] Wireless Internet RFI

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Wireless Internet RFI
From: "Earl Morse" <kz8e@wt.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:36:13 -0700
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Brian,

Selecting the right bead is only the small part of the problem.  The more 
important part is knowing where to put the bead.

You didn't describe the noise other than that it is occuring at lower 
frequencies.  From this, my first assumption is that you are dealing with 
switch mode power supply harmonics.  They will sound kind of broadband and 
occur ever 50-200 kHz or so.  Anyway thats a good place to start.

As for the ferrite, the most common ferrite out there is some flavor of 
Fair-Rite Type 43 with a permeability of 800-850.  It is used by electronics 
manufacturers for wideband noise suppression especially in the 20-200 MHz 
range.  It is the core you will find molded into or snapped onto common 
electronics cables.  It is also the most common core rolling around in the junk 
boxes at hamfests.  Though it is optimized for a higher frequency range it will 
work at lower frequencies.  Find the biggest one you can and then put as many 
turns of cable on it as you can fit.  When you find some improvement then you 
can either add more turns, another core, or change to a different material to 
optimize the results.

Good luck.  Remember that consumer electronics are completely cost reduced and 
many manufacturers will happily delete RFI suppression components because it 
doesn't affect performance and most users won't notice the increase in RF 
emissions.

Earl 
N8SS
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:07:04 -0400
From: Brian Sarkisian <cqkg8co@gmail.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Wireless Internet RFI
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I recently had an internet wireless antenna/unit installed as our DSL was
painfully slow.

Now I notice RFI in the AM broadcast band and into the 160 meter band.
 There may more
RFI issues on other bands however at this point I haven't noticed anything.

I see that Fair-Rate makes a series of "New Low Frequency Suppression Cable
Component
ferrites, though I am not sure what I should purchase.

It looks like that I should be looking for a "certain impedance" for a
particular frequency.

Any help would be appreciated.

73 de Brian, KG8CO


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