On 9/18/2013 8:36 AM, w5gn@mxg.com wrote:
"Couldn't you just re-deed re-record the two lots into one?"
We had discussed that "option" but it's not possible, for
several reasons, but especially in Dallas where most of
the housing is late-20th century in developments of a
fixed lot size; the planners don't want a "three lot
mega home" to alter the nature of those neighborhoods
Additionally, there were other planning issues as to
what constitutes a "single home"; we would have had
to physically connect the two houses, and not just
with a covered walk way - it would have had been
an interior sealed connection which would have made
it real fun with the air conditioning and heating systems
competing. And I think there was also an issue with
two kitchens, since that would constitute a rentable
apartment on the property, also not allowed.
Strange, When I built my shop, I couldn't add a "rest room", or even
running water, or they'd consider it a 2nd habitable building which
isn't allowed. Course, If I had a rest room and water, I could add a hot
plate for coffee and probably spend so much time out here my wife would
have to come out to check on me occasionally <:-)) Yet other than set
back rules (for safety) and that covers the tower, not what you put on
it. There are no other limitations on ham antennas. IE, you cam put up
a tower to meet the setback and add a 30 foot mast on top. They don't
even require/issue building permits for ham towers,
If they ever rezone be sure to get involved particularly with anything
that deals with amateur radio.
73
Roger (K8RI)
73
Barry, EI/W5GN
-----Original Message-----
From: Drax Felton [mailto:draxfelton@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:39 AM
To: <w5gn@mxg.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crossing Property Lines
Couldn't you just re-deed re-record the two lots into one?
On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:56 AM, <w5gn@mxg.com> wrote:
In Dallas, I was cited because my antennas not only exceeded the
setback, (the tower was 10 feet from the property line), but both the
OB16-3 and CalAV 2El 40 elements extended many feet over the adjacent
property line
IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT BOTH PROPERTIES ARE OURS!!!
pics at http://www.mxg.com lower left corner.
A passerby had called the city to ask how close an antenna could be to
a neighbor's property which led to an inspector visit, but no
complaint had ever been made.
The sole neighbor whose view of the antenna wasn't blocked by trees
(at least when it was down) came and testified on our behalf, and the
planning committee initially voted to waive the restriction, but the
City Attorney informed the committee that they did not have the power
to approve crossing property lines, that only a state court or
legislature act could make that decision, and directed them to
rejected the approval.
I did point out that the tower and antenna were temporary as they had
been dropped into place with a crane (60 ton, 160 foot boom, $700!)
and bolted in place, and could be removed as easily, and so I really
only needed temporary approval, and as I plan to make it to 100, that
was only 35 years of temporary approval that I'd need.
After the meeting I discussed the appeal process with the City
Attorney, who agreed that PRB-1 would likely prevail, but it would
have to go to state court, costing the city, and privately indicated
that if I did nothing, it's likely the City would to do nothing in the
absence of an actual complaint.
That was 2006 and it's still there, but now always retracted with the
top antenna at 50 feet, primarily, after I calculated the wind load
capacity of the (overloaded) tower when extended to be about 25mph,
but also where it is less visible, and still quite effective.
73
Barry, W5GN
-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Gallo
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:03 PM
To: David Gilbert
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Custom antenna design
On 9/17/2013 David Gilbert wrote:
The zoning laws in many municipalities prohibit it.
Dave AB7E
EXACTLY in this case. When I put up the existing Antennas (as a
right), someone called the zoning Dept, who actually sent out an
investigator, twice (I had to explain to him that NYC HAS no rules for
a ham antenna, just commercial, roof loading, access, and there is a
MAX height above roof, but one thing he was REAL clear on was I went
one inch over the property line, and I was going to have to take it
down, and he sat there with a transit on the line and LOOKED as he
made me rotate the antenna, and I was clear by a bit over a foot. He
was fine with that, and the complaint was dismissed
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Charlie
www.baysidephoto.com
www.thegallos.com
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