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To: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com, "Richard \\(Rick\\) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tack welding rebar, need howto (was: Tower Foundation (was Concrete Prices)
From: "Patrick Greenlee" <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:39:11 -0600
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Rick, Is it safe to assume (yeah, I know how to humorously dissect the word) that tack welds at the ends of lengths of rebar to hold things in place would not particularly cause a problem with strength reduction. This of course world be an entirely different thing if you were welding a length of rebar mid span. Tensile strength is important and you don't want to make the rebar easy to stretch as that would defeat its purpose.

What say, Rick?  Ok to weld the ends of rebar to the ends of other pieces.

Patrick NJ5G

-----Original Message----- From: Rex Turvin
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:03 PM
To: Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com ; Grant Saviers
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tack welding rebar, need howto (was: Tower Foundation (was Concrete Prices)

Rick
Speaking as a certified welder, technically speaking you are suppose to use the higher grade rebar when welding it as the normal rebar looses a lot of strength when heated. I am also required to use 80 series rod (80,000psi) for rebar. That is why it is so expensive to do when welding. I personally like to weld my cages it prevents movement. If you use a wire welder either solid wire or flux core it also it suppose to be a 80 series per welding codes
73 NR6M

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On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:27 PM, "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com> wrote:

On 1/2/2014 11:02 AM, Grant Saviers wrote:


Tack weld the bolts together with #3 rebar when attached to the base so
they don't move when set without the base to make concrete work easier.

Grant KZ1W

Can anyone refer me to a Dummy's guide to welding rebar?

1.  I have heard that I have to use special weldable rebar.
What do I ask for?  I'm assuming that the common rebar
at Home Depot, etc is not it.

2.  Gas weld or arc weld?  How big of an arc welder needed?
Can I get away with a MAPP gas torch?

3.  What welding rods to use?

4.  What if the bolts happen to be galvanized?  Grind
off the galvanizing near the weld?

5.  Can this be done by a novice welder?  (I took a
class on welding in college 40 years ago, so I know
just enough to be dangerous).  Any stupid rookie
mistakes to avoid?

6.  Alternately, if I go to a welding shop, are they
going to know what to do or do I need to go to a
concrete company that makes rebar cages all the time?

7.  I am mainly interested in using tack welding to keep
the bolts from moving.  The jury is still out on whether
to weld or wire the rest of the cage.  I just don't
trust wiring as being rigid enough to fix the bolts
in place.

Thanks in advance.

Rick N6RK
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