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Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA lightning damage

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA lightning damage
From: "Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>
Reply-to: Larry <w6nws@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:59:03 -0400
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They are still listed on Wireman as ICE units, model 348. ICE was changed to 
Morgan after the owner of ICE died a few years ago. They are listed at 64.40USD.

Products->I.C.E.  Impulse Suppressor and Arrestors->rotator Line/remote switch

73, Larry  W6NWS

From: Richard Solomon 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:18 PM
To: Larry 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA lightning damage

You sure about that Model Number ?? 


Nothing found on the Wireman site and neither on a Google Search.


73, Dick, W1KSZ




On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Larry <lknain@nc.rr.com> wrote:

  I use Morgan M-348 units. The Wireman (thewireman.com) in SC (and probably 
others) sells them.

  73, Larry  W6NWS

  -----Original Message----- From: EDWARDS, EDDIE J
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 12:21 PM
  To: towertalk@contesting.com
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA lightning damage

  Regarding the issue of lightning damage to control boxes, I'm wondering if 
you guys are using surge protectors on your rotor lines or not?

  Polyphaser makes one and probably some others do as well.
  http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/ppr-is-rct


  73, de ed -K0iL

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  Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:08:16 -0400
  From: "Edward Sawyer" <SawyerEd@Earthlink.net>
  To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA lightning damage
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  To my knowledge, Yaesu does not repair the rotor or the control box.  They
  will sell you the control box but its not cheap AT ALL!  They will also sell
  the stand alone rotor without the control box.



  To properly debug the problem, it is always handy to have an extra Yaesu
  control box so that it can be swapped out to see if the problem is the box
  or the cable/rotor.  I have actually found the rotor itself to be darned
  reliable.  But the boxes are incredibly fragile to all kinds of stuff.  I
  have a grave yard of a number of boxes and have a winter project in mind to
  try and make one good or maybe two good boxes out of them so I have spares.
  Its not a matter of IF you need to replace a Yaesu rotor control box - it's
  a matter of when.



  Ed  N1UR



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  Message: 2
  Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:12:47 -0700
  From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
  To: towertalk@contesting.com
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re:  G-2800DXA lightning damage
  Message-ID: <5407D8AF.5000104@pacbell.net>
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  Having been into the 2800 control box for mechanical repairs, I
  understand why Yaesu doesn't repair them.  It's a dog's breakfast of
  interconnections among 3 pcbs.  The schematics are just as bad,
  spaghetti signal flows.  The servo control to drive the pointer drive
  motor is complex.  The gear train behind the pointer is not for the
  fumble fingered and the o-ring used to drive the pointer is just this
  side of comical.  The whole thing has to come apart for replacement when
  they stretch or dry rot.  My advice is to buy a Green Heron if the
  control box is bad.

  The rotator mechanics OTOH seem pretty well made and designed (except
  for getting the 500 ohm pot precisely aligned).

  Grant KZ1W


  On 9/3/2014 3:08 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:

    To my knowledge, Yaesu does not repair the rotor or the control box.  They
    will sell you the control box but its not cheap AT ALL!  They will also sell
    the stand alone rotor without the control box.



    To properly debug the problem, it is always handy to have an extra Yaesu
    control box so that it can be swapped out to see if the problem is the box
    or the cable/rotor.  I have actually found the rotor itself to be darned
    reliable.  But the boxes are incredibly fragile to all kinds of stuff.  I
    have a grave yard of a number of boxes and have a winter project in mind to
    try and make one good or maybe two good boxes out of them so I have spares.
    Its not a matter of IF you need to replace a Yaesu rotor control box - it's
    a matter of when.



    Ed  N1UR

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