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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Aluminium Paint versus Cold Galv
From: Bill <bmarx@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:37:26 -0500
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If there is too much rust and not fully removed it will bleed through...my use of the cold Galvanizing with the spray can has lasted for many years with still no rust issues.
Bill W2CQ


On 11/29/2014 10:04 AM, Earl Morse wrote:
I only have experience with the ZRC cold galvanizing compound.  When I first 
read your post I thought what a good time to review my old chemistry and 
valence bonding etc.  After looking up the valence shells for AL, FE, and ZN I 
thought, screw that I'll just offer my opinion.

I painted my Rohn 45 20 years ago with a couple of quarts of ZRC cold 
galvanizing.  The cans are heavy and the contents look like liquid zinc.  ZRC 
says it is about 95% zinc flakes.  Looking up their FAQ they claim that it does 
perform the galvanic bond as the flakes bond together and the carrier dries.

In my case I painted it over an already painted red/orange and white 
transmitter tower.  I power washed the tower first and knocked off as much of 
the paint as I could, cleaned up any small rust spots and then painted it with 
the ZRC.  The ZRC is tough stuff.  It hasn't flaked in 20 years/2 QTHs and if 
you pull a rope over a wrung it will polish the spot to a shiny silver bare 
metallic sheen.  I would have to agree that the stuff bonded well to the tower. 
 I suppose I could make some ohmic measurements from inside surface to outside 
surface the next time I have it down and see if it is electrically bonded as 
well but don't expect that measurement this week.

Earl
N8SS

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 04:54:48 +0000
From: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Aluminium Paint versus Cold Galv
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Reviewing the archives,  I see many posts over the years on the subject Cold 
Galvanising paint.  Some say it works wonders while others have reported it 
being no better than ordinary paint.? Here is my experience.

I once used a spray can of Cold Galv on another outdoor steel structure, and 
recall rust spots creeping through within just a few months. I have used 
aluminium paint on unprotected steel, and on galvanised steel showing signs of 
rust, and it always seems to last a long time before more rust appears.  The 
steel casting on the salvaged broadcast station base insulator I use with my 
tower was not galvanised at the factory. After erecting the tower I painted the 
ungalvanised casting with aluminium paint, and in the 33 years that I have had 
the tower up, I have re-painted it only once. Aluminium paint seems to be 
almost as good as hot-dip galvanising for warding off rust, and I believe it is 
a more effective product than Cold Galv for protecting steel.

Here is a brochure from ALCOA touting the advantages of aluminium paint.  See
https://ia601502.us.archive.org/33/items/AluminumPaintATreatiseOnThePhysicalPropertiesOfAluminumPaintAndIts/AluminumCoOfAmericaCca39891.pdf

According to the brochure, "Many power companies are finding aluminium paint more 
satisfactory than galvavizing for protecting the steel towers used in  supporting power 
lines... In painting towers, bridges and structures in general, the painter appreciates 
the difference in weight...  Since the corrosion of iron and steel is caused by moisture 
and oxygen, it is obvious that a highly impermeable paint film is  desirable for their 
protection"

  ALCOA goes on to say, "The metallic aluminium flakes, called aluminium bronze 
powder, which are its pigment portion, have many unique and useful properties which 
no other paint pigment has. The simple mixing of this aluminium bronze powder with a 
suitable oil or varnish vehicle at once provides an aluminium paint which  renders 
unusually satisfactory service in many and varied applications... Aluminium bronze 
powder for paints is made by stamping aluminium into very small and thin flakes... 
The shape of the particles of aluminium bronze powder is of particular interest. The 
ordinary pigment materials like zinc oxide, red lead, white lead, etc., are composed 
of particles distinctly granular in form even though they be exceedingly small. 
Aluminium bronze powder is, however, essentially flake-like in character... little 
particles of aluminium swirl about in the liquid and many of them come to the 
surface of the liquid and remain there... Very quickly an almost continuous fil
m o
  f metallic aluminium is formed at the surface of the varnish by the little 
flakes... which arrange themselves, in layer upon layer, much like fish scales... 
descriptively called LEAFING..."

Of course, one must keep in mind that ALCOA is promoting their product, but still this is a credible explanation. Cold Galv uses tiny particles of zinc suspended in the vehicle/bonding agent of the paint to coat the steel, on the theory that the zinc particles will protect the steel in the same manner as the solid layer of zinc in real galvanising. But with hot-dip galvanising, the zinc coating is directly bonded to the steel like solder, making electrical contact with the steel substrate. By galvanic action (hence the term "galvanising"), the zinc sacrifices itself in the presence of corrosive substances like sulphuric acid in polluted air, thus protecting the steel from rust. With zinc paint, the particles are suspended in the varnish-like vehicle of the paint, which continues to serve as a bonding agent after the paint dries. Since varnish is an electrical insulator, not a conductor, each zinc particle is effectively isolated from the steel it is supposed to protect, so
ho
  w could any galvanic action occur?


Don k4kyv
                                        

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