Always remember the (WAF) Wife Approval Factor
Steve Flory W9KOP
sflory@mindspring.com
"I like climbing towers because people look up to me"
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:44:07 -0400
>From: "Ed Finn" <edfinn11@gmail.com>
>To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
>Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Paint
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>All,
>
>Thanks to all for the comments.
>
>I just spoke with the zoning director and he backed off with needing paint.
>He just told me to submit when I am ready.
>
>Now to the first approval (from the wife)...
>
>Ed wa3drc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>Sawyer
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:09 AM
>To: towertalk@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Paint
>
>When dealing with zoning and permit officials, you need to understand what
>your application is vs the local and state statutes and also whether those
>statutes are in compliance with PRB-1 reasonable accommodation. If you have
>a very well updated town or city, that has written language into their
>statutes to reasonably accommodate ham radio towers, and you are looking for
>zoning waiver to be approved, then the zoning board has a lot of subjective
>leeway to ask for things - and many do.
>
>
>
>However, if you are dealing with a very common situation where there is no
>accommodating language, then you actually shouldn't even be asking for a
>zoning waiver, in my opinion (which is not a lawyer but with some
>experience). You should just apply for a building permit and get into a
>discussion of why they would be rejecting it in violation of federal law.
>That usually gets their attention and dismisses with the feel good stuff
>like "blending with the neighborhood".
>
>
>
>Never ever call it a tower and never ever allow the application of
>commercial tower regs and guideline to be applied to your personal use
>accessory structure. They can't do it - and they know it. They just don't
>know if you know it. They can apply structural concerns relative to wind
>and other safety issues but only to the extent they would challenge a house
>or garage for personal use. Not turn your personal use structure into a
>Verizon Cell tower. Its not legally a commercial tower.
>
>
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>Ed N1UR
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:45:56 -0400
>From: mike repinski via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
>To: edfinn11@gmail.com, towertalk@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Paint
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>I would have cleared with the misses before city hall:)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ed Finn <edfinn11@gmail.com>
>To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
>Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2015 9:44 am
>Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Paint
>
>
>All,
>
>Thanks to all for the comments.
>
>I just spoke with the zoning director
>and he backed off with needing paint.
>He just told me to submit when I am
>ready.
>
>Now to the first approval (from the wife)...
>
>Ed
>wa3drc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TowerTalk
>[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed
>Sawyer
>Sent: Friday,
>June 12, 2015 6:09 AM
>To: towertalk@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk]
>Tower Paint
>
>When dealing with zoning and permit officials, you need to
>understand what
>your application is vs the local and state statutes and also
>whether those
>statutes are in compliance with PRB-1 reasonable accommodation.
>If you have
>a very well updated town or city, that has written language into
>their
>statutes to reasonably accommodate ham radio towers, and you are looking
>for
>zoning waiver to be approved, then the zoning board has a lot of
>subjective
>leeway to ask for things - and many do.
>
>
>
>However, if you are
>dealing with a very common situation where there is no
>accommodating language,
>then you actually shouldn't even be asking for a
>zoning waiver, in my opinion
>(which is not a lawyer but with some
>experience). You should just apply for a
>building permit and get into a
>discussion of why they would be rejecting it in
>violation of federal law.
>That usually gets their attention and dismisses with
>the feel good stuff
>like "blending with the neighborhood".
>
>
>
>Never ever
>call it a tower and never ever allow the application of
>commercial tower regs
>and guideline to be applied to your personal use
>accessory structure. They
>can't do it - and they know it. They just don't
>know if you know it. They can
>apply structural concerns relative to wind
>and other safety issues but only to
>the extent they would challenge a house
>or garage for personal use. Not turn
>your personal use structure into a
>Verizon Cell tower. Its not legally a
>commercial tower.
>
>
>
>Ed
>N1UR
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:44:17 -0400
>From: R Morris <robrk@nidhog.net>
>To: Ed Finn <edfinn11@gmail.com>
>Cc: "<towertalk@contesting.com>" <towertalk@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Paint
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>On Jun 12, 2015, at 09:44, Ed Finn <edfinn11@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>All,
>
>Thanks to all for the comments.
>
>
>
>Now to the first approval (from the wife)...
>
>Ed wa3drc
>
>That will cost a lot more than paint...
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